Question on the Amp models in a Mark V

[igfraso]

Bullen:
you said that the Edge mode is Mesa´s take on vintage british amps, pretty much a Vox sounding with the right settings.
If it is a sort of VOX AC30, then it makes sense to name it "The Edge" (U2).

Can you post some settings on this Vox sound, please?
Regards

 

[Bullen]

Bullen:
you said that the Edge mode is Mesa´s take on vintage british amps, pretty much a Vox sounding with the right settings.
If it is a sort of VOX AC30, then it makes sense to name it "The Edge" (U2).

Can you post some settings on this Vox sound, please?
Regards

I don´t really have any settings for a Vox sound. I´ve mainly heard others state that it can get pretty close.
I can get it to sound pretty beatles-esque if I want to. Sure it´s not exact, but to my ears the Edge mode is more Vox than Marshall.

The Haggerty´s music demo has a pretty good Vox example:

http://www.forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=51044

 

[phyrexia]

"edge" != the edge.

"edge" = edge of breakup

 

[Boognoob]

"edge" != the edge.

"edge" = edge of breakup

Indeed.

For this reason, I think that 'Extreme' should be renamed "Satan".

 

[Vogelsong]

"edge" != the edge.

"edge" = edge of breakup

Indeed.

For this reason, I think that 'Extreme' should be renamed "Satan".

+100

 

[Vogelsong]

Right now extreme mode is giving me a lead tone that nails the Clapton tone he used in the intro of the Phil Collins "Rain Down".

Lovin it.

 

[screamingdaisy]

Beyond the obvious gain difference, after doing a lot of listening and experimenting I've concluded that Crunch mode is based around the IIC+ sound, however they seem to have added a notch in the midrange to help give it a fatter, more scooped sound. I can get IIC+ and Crunch to sound really close, but I can't get the mids identical.

 

[igfraso]

I would think that the architecture of the Channel 2 is the opposite of Channels 1 and 3.
Most probably the modes in the Channel 2 are coming from the Recto and the Stiletto since they are more compatible with the Mark I channel 1 architecture.

 

[igfraso]

Just to clarify...

I understand that, in the Mark I and the Marshall-type amps (Recto, Stiletto), the tone stack is placed after the distortion stages.
From the Mark II-A onwards, the tone stack is placed before the distortion stages.

 

[screamingdaisy]

Just to clarify...

I understand that, in the Mark I and the Marshall-type amps (Recto, Stiletto), the tone stack is placed after the distortion stages.
From the Mark II-A onwards, the tone stack is placed before the distortion stages.

The Mark I has the tone stack before distortion.

 

[thunder100]

Just to clarify...

I understand that, in the Mark I and the Marshall-type amps (Recto, Stiletto), the tone stack is placed after the distortion stages.
From the Mark II-A onwards, the tone stack is placed before the distortion stages.

So its same way in the Mark V-->CH2 Mk 1-->Gain stage is after distortion gain??
On CH1 and 3 opposite then ??

Really true or just on the older Mark'S

Roland

 

[igfraso]

Just to clarify...

I understand that, in the Mark I and the Marshall-type amps (Recto, Stiletto), the tone stack is placed after the distortion stages.
From the Mark II-A onwards, the tone stack is placed before the distortion stages.

The Mark I has the tone stack before distortion.

Maybe, not.
That is just what separates the Mark I from the rest of the Mark series.

That is why (I guess) the Mark I mode is in a totally different channel than the rest of the Mark modes in the Mark V amp.
If so, it makes sense that the Mark I lead sound is in the same Mark V Channel 2 as the sounds taken from the Marshally sounds (Recto, Stiletto).

I went and double checked on The Boogie Files the following statement about the Mark I.

QUOTE
"MESA/Boogie has stated that both the original and the reissue have a "looser" lead sound since the first two preamp stages occurs before the tone controls. In the various later Mark II and III models, there is only one gain stage before the tone controls."
UNQUOTE

 

[screamingdaisy]

QUOTE
"MESA/Boogie has stated that both the original and the reissue have a "looser" lead sound since the first two preamp stages occurs before the tone controls. In the various later Mark II and III models, there is only one gain stage before the tone controls."
UNQUOTE

The Mark I has more than two stages of gain, thus there are still gain stages after the tone stack.