Possible mod to rhythm mode for darker jazz tone fr Triaxis?

[joegold]

Hi

I can't seem to darken up the rhythm channels the way I'd like to for a dark clean jazz tone, ala Metheny (Trio)/Martino/Bickert type of thing, although I can get real close.

The Triaxis owner's manual says something about a "Dynamic Bright circuit" being built-in to the the Rhythm Modes that is especially active with lower settings of the Gain parameter. With higher settings of the Gain parameter the bright sound is less evident. But at higher settings of the Gain parameter the sound also begins to get compressed and break up a bit, and I need it dark *and clean*.

This Dynamic Bright circuit is somewhat like having the bright switch on a Fender amp on all the time. I'd like to be able to turn it off.

Anybody know of a mod that can be done to the Rh Green (or even Rh Yellow) mode that would defeat the "Dynamic Bright circuit"?
Of course for pop/R&B rhythm sounds I'd want that great bright sound back again, so this is probably not possible within a single Triaxis mode. But, I never use the Rh Yellow channel, so if it could be modded to sound exactly like Rh Green but with the Dynamic Bright circuit defeated I might be a happy camper.

I can come close to what I want with an EQ in the effects loop, but it seems to lose something in translation.
I've also tried all sorts of combinations of 12AT7's and 5751's in V2, V3 and V5, and it's not doing it for me.

Please, no suggestions to use different guitars, different tubes, different strings, etc. I just want to know about potential mods that will selectively defeat the Dynamic Bright circuitry when I want to.

My Triaxis is Ser# T109, an early model, but it has been upgraded to 2.0 specs. [I.e. It's got the Recto board w/o the Phat mod, and the old "Presence mod" (to lower the overal brightness in all modes...this is now stock on all Triaxis') was done ages ago. It's still got the original power switch, without the ground lift, though.]

I'm just sounding you guys out before I go and call Mesa myself, assuming that I actually want to go through with this.

Thanks.

 

[fatboy135]

that is possible even if you are looking for a toaster some people could do a triaxis-toaster for you, but the idea is not if it is posible, the correct question is:
It is cheaper to get a mod on the triaxis for a jazz sound or maybe I must to purchase a roland jazz chorus combo???
All the mods that you imagine are available, there are electronics, only components. You need a new design and new components to implement it.
Actually I don´t know if there is any mod to jazz sound, because there is not a typical issue.
Anyway, think that you want so much in only one topic, you didn´t want new tubes, you didn´t want external effects, you only want a mod that modifies the compresion, the gain circuit and the response of the triaxis.
Is there any mod to do that??? I don´t know. Did you really want a mod to do all the things that you want to do???? ok then I must to say you that you want to mod so many things, there are mods that needs a good design, some test, some probes, etc.... did you think that it is only a mod??? no man, there are some mods in the gain circuit to get a real jazz sound, on the presence circuit...
Another question did you think that triaxis is the best amp for jazz??? on the other hand did you think that the roland jazz chorus is look like a triaxis???? There is the million dollar question, if an amp is designed to sound for jazz you could improve the jazzy taste into the seven sky, but if you have a polivalent amp don´t expect to get the perfect jazz sound.
Triaxis was designed in the path of older marks, triaxis has 8 modes since a clean mode til the more gain agressive mode. The triaxis brings you the chance to get some cool sounds but think that if the triaxis were perfect on jazz and perfect for trash metal then it will be the best seller amp.
In my point of view triaxis has a so nice clean a la mark taste, so I think that if you are looking for a jazz sound see another external equipment. If you want to know if it is possible to mod it, I could answer you with a great yes, but there is not only a mod, you will need also modified so many parts on triaxis
Sorry to be so rude but this post is really funny.

 

[joegold]

that is possible even if you are looking for a toaster some people could do a triaxis-toaster for you, but the idea is not if it is posible, the correct question is:
It is cheaper to get a mod on the triaxis for a jazz sound or maybe I must to purchase a roland jazz chorus combo???
All the mods that you imagine are available, there are electronics, only components. You need a new design and new components to implement it.
Actually I don´t know if there is any mod to jazz sound, because there is not a typical issue.
Anyway, think that you want so much in only one topic, you didn´t want new tubes, you didn´t want external effects, you only want a mod that modifies the compresion, the gain circuit and the response of the triaxis.
Is there any mod to do that??? I don´t know. Did you really want a mod to do all the things that you want to do???? ok then I must to say you that you want to mod so many things, there are mods that needs a good design, some test, some probes, etc.... did you think that it is only a mod??? no man, there are some mods in the gain circuit to get a real jazz sound, on the presence circuit...
Another question did you think that triaxis is the best amp for jazz??? on the other hand did you think that the roland jazz chorus is look like a triaxis???? There is the million dollar question, if an amp is designed to sound for jazz you could improve the jazzy taste into the seven sky, but if you have a polivalent amp don´t expect to get the perfect jazz sound.
Triaxis was designed in the path of older marks, triaxis has 8 modes since a clean mode til the more gain agressive mode. The triaxis brings you the chance to get some cool sounds but think that if the triaxis were perfect on jazz and perfect for trash metal then it will be the best seller amp.
In my point of view triaxis has a so nice clean a la mark taste, so I think that if you are looking for a jazz sound see another external equipment. If you want to know if it is possible to mod it, I could answer you with a great yes, but there is not only a mod, you will need also modified so many parts on triaxis
Sorry to be so rude but this post is really funny.

You're not being rude. You're being stupid.

 

[fatboy135]

You're not being rude. You're being stupid.

:wink: thanks for your advice, becoming from a man who is begging help about mod a triaxis for playing jazz I think that is a honor for me. Take it easy man would you like to follow the triaxis jazz discuss or better you want a war of words????

 

[joegold]

You're not being rude. You're being stupid.

:wink: thanks for your advice, becoming from a man who is begging help about mod a triaxis for playing jazz I think that is a honor for me. Take it easy man would you like to follow the triaxis jazz discuss or better you want a war of words????

:roll:
Look. I'm not "begging" for anything. Nor am I asking about most of the things you think I'm asking about.

• "you only want a mod that modifies the compresion, the gain circuit and the response of the triaxis"
• "Did you really want a mod to do all the things that you want to do???? ok then I must to say you that you want to mod so many things,"
• "there are some mods in the gain circuit to get a real jazz sound, on the presence circuit..."

All I'm asking for is a mod that would allow the dynamic Bright Circuit to be switched off. Admittedly, the idea of modding Rhythm Yellow to be a clone of Rhythm Green, but without the Bright circuit, would probably be a big job. And I probably won't even go through with any of this, unless someone like Mike Bendinelli says it'd work and it can be done.

• "Another question did you think that triaxis is the best amp for jazz??? on the other hand did you think that the roland jazz chorus is look like a triaxis????"

Yes, I think the Triaxis should be a great sounding amp for jazz. I don't believe there is a "best" jazz amp just like I don't believe there is a "best" jazz guitarist. And the JC120 sound sucks for jazz. Mesa MKI's, II's, III's and IV's sound great for jazz sound I'm after *because they have Bright Switches that can be turned off*. If the Triaxis' Rhy modes are really designed on ther MK series amps then this is an important feature that they missed. IMO

 

[fatboy135]

All I'm asking for is a mod that would allow the dynamic Bright Circuit to be switched off

Yes you could do that. This mod doesn´t exist as a branded mod but it is possible.