Making a LSC sound like a MKIV

[dannymusic]

I recently bought a LSC 1x12 combo as my first Mesaboogie in more then 2 decades. I'm getting very used to it.
I also have a 2x12 horizontal mesa classic closed back combo w/dual C90 speakers.

What would it take to push the LSC into mkIV tonal arena. (I'm talking heavy tones) I have to think I can get there with this platform. It has 100w of 6l6 froth and dual recto action. What's holding me back? will a pedal of some sort bridge the final frontier? Slave out? eq in the loop?

 

[Pageburst]

100 watts gives you a lot of clean headroom it doesn't necessarily make for high gain.

I would put the gain channel on 50 watt / tube rec, dime the drive and gain and back off the Hi and Lo EQ to about 7 oclock while raising the mid EQ to taste.

That should get you a nice big juicy gain tone with a bit of hair but plenty of taughtness too.

I would aslo try EL34Ls and maybe 6v6s in TWeed mode.

 

[dannymusic]

I want to know if anyone got the MARK IV crunch/kill tones. I know how to get good tones out of it. And I am VERY happy with it. Considering EL34. I'm thinkin' slave out might be where to start.

 

[boogiemon]

i would suggest these settings on the gain channel:

drive: 2:30
switch: thicker
gain: 3:00
treble: 3:00
mid: 12:00
bass: 9:30
presence: 10:00

effects loop in, level up past 1:00
rectifier: solid state


good luck, let us know how it goes.

 

[Joshusama]

Kind of an enigmaic question, since the MKIV has so, so many high gain tones. I'd be curious which flavor you're looking for in particular. In general, you can get close to certain R2-type sounds by throwing a dimed Keeley 808 in front of 50W, "thicker", pushed channel 2 (drive not engaged) with diodes. If you want more of that "EQ engaged" and less mid-hump, then try a OD-1 or equivalent...a blues driver can get you some of those presence-pulled tones...sort of!

In any case, you're going to have to throw a pedal or two in front of the amp to emulate the MKIV. But it's still an emulation...

Forget nailing the full complexity of simulclass...

 

[phillyred79]

Not to be a negative ned, but it ain't gonna happen! The cascading gain structure of the Mark series amp is what makes them sound like they do. You could probably run through a POD or something like an emulator type pedal to approximate it, but I'd hate for you to put such crap in front of your lonestar. R2 on a MK IV is probably the closest you'll get, but even then R2 can be quite gainy.

Get a Mark IV and you'll still have quite decent cleans, esp. running through your 2x12. Lonestars are Mesa's clean/bluesy amp and that's all they do!

 

[PRSKILLER]

I had a Mark IV before my Lonestar and what phillyred79 said is true. The Lonestar is a completely different beast when comparing it to the Mark IV. You will not get the high gain like the Mark IV. I get my "so called MKIV" high gain sound by slamming the Monte Allums Tri-Rec DS-1 in the clean channel of my LSC. Even then it's not MKIV'ish but it will do for me.

Check out the Emma Reezafratzitz pedal. Those clips almost sound Mark IV to me.

 

[dannymusic]

I see JP uses a Keeley modded metalzone on his pedalboard.
Would that get you close into a LSC?
I'm just really opposed to carrying more then one amp.

what is a Monte Allums Tri-Rec DS-1?