Something happened while playing with my Triple Rectifier last night. I adjusted the ORANGE presence knob while playing in RED channel since I read that both presence knob should work when playing on Red channel and I was shocked that it does work(I read and re read the manual confirming that i wasn't dreaming :lol: ). Anyway, it does work but the ORANGE presence knob seems to work backwards when playing in RED-MODERN. It adds highs when on zero and removes everything when dimed. It's working normal when playing in Orange-Clean/Vintage. Is that normal?
I also read the part where it says:
If you must for a specific part of at very low volumes, back down the TREBLE and PRESENCE Controls. Your RECTO was designed to provide amazing gain and tone at less than extreme settings removing the need for you to crank everything all the way up. If you are not able to achieve the sound you want at sensible setting on any or all of the controls, your problem may lie elsewhere in
the signal chain, i.e. pick-ups, cabinetry, processing, etc.
http://www.mesaboogie.com/manuals/2chRecto.pdf
Is this what I am experiencing?
edit: I also found an older thread that someone mentioned the same thing, where Orange presence knob is set on zero, it is out of the loop. Maybe it is acting as a gate? Let me find that thread again...
Heres the thread:http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=52818&p=377119&hilit=ORANGE+PRESENCE+KNOB#p377119
I also read the part where it says:
If you must for a specific part of at very low volumes, back down the TREBLE and PRESENCE Controls. Your RECTO was designed to provide amazing gain and tone at less than extreme settings removing the need for you to crank everything all the way up. If you are not able to achieve the sound you want at sensible setting on any or all of the controls, your problem may lie elsewhere in
the signal chain, i.e. pick-ups, cabinetry, processing, etc.
http://www.mesaboogie.com/manuals/2chRecto.pdf
Is this what I am experiencing?
edit: I also found an older thread that someone mentioned the same thing, where Orange presence knob is set on zero, it is out of the loop. Maybe it is acting as a gate? Let me find that thread again...
Heres the thread:http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=52818&p=377119&hilit=ORANGE+PRESENCE+KNOB#p377119
TheMagicEight said:Awesome; thanks for the feedback!YellowJacket said:Ok, I just tried it. Looks like I was wrong. It was just my thiele cabinet that hates the uber high frequencies.
I tried it in the Mock212B with the v30 and c90. Here is what I noticed: With red set to vintage, as I turned up the presence on the red channel the blanket came off of the amp. The tone cleared up, opened up, and became very 'chainsaw' like. This is with the gain at 2:00, Presence dimed, everything else at noon. The orange channel presence was set to around 9:00.
The tone is very open, clear, and even. Not overly bassy like rectos can tend to get. I recall playing a Soldano Hot Rod 50. There is this clear chainsaw like quality to that amp where there is no mushy or squishy-ness. The recto is surprisingly similar with these settings but it is still thicker sounding. It is a fantastic rhythm tone setting and the lack of bass would be great with some guitars. I wouldn't say it is an SLO but it is definitely more 'Soldano like' than any other way I have set up my amp.
I AB'd the presence dimed vintage channel mode with the modern mode. With fairly conventional red channel settings with the red channel set to modern, the amp becomes crunchier, more scooped, and much more 'recto - like' in its tone. The bass thickens up and becomes phat and pounding. Definitely less like a chainsaw. I WISH I HAD RECORDING equipment. It would be interesting to record this stuff properly. The Zoom H2 doesn't cut it for guitar recording. It captures far too much room noise.
I'll bet the lead tone was a bit more usable? With the SLO - and I'll bet for the Pre-500 as well - the effect would be even more dramatic. Switching to Red Vintage introduces negative feedback to the power amp, "stabilizing" and evening out the frequencies a bit. When the Orange presence is completely off, it's (nearly) as if it's out of the circuit. The opposite is true of Red presence in this situation.
And any clips - terrible quality or not - would be greatly appreciated, though I'll find out for myself what all this sounds like in a week or two! Which setup do you prefer, by the way?