whats the diference between rec with mic preamp and without?

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it's a huge difference.

the result can be improved very well with a preamp. the preamp affects usually

- the sensitivity of the mic
- the frequency range
- the headroom of your recording or compression level
...

some side effects are: sometimes noisy, changing the sound, not every preamp fits to every mic - and the most important: cost intensive. very simple: cheap preamp=cheap results.

the best ever mic preamp for guitars (as i think) is the neve 1073. of course there are others like focus rite etc with tubes without tubes but the neve beats them all by universes.

once you will notice how loud your recording room really is, but if you are in death metal just go for a sm57 straight into the mixer, that will bring the best results.

keep the ears open ;-)
 
I think you must use a mic pre also to get correct impedance match (I mean the mic pre builds up a line-level signal which can then be processed, converted in a digital signal, etc).

Dean69, is AMS-Neve still selling the 1073 reissues? How much do they go for, $3000?
 
thanks :D ......... Im going to buy a mic preamp not so expensive but something like 250 - 400 .... which may be a good preamp for recording guitar within that cost? ... what about the ART MPA Gold 2 Channel Microphone Preamp ? :)


Thanks
 
there is a wepsite from rupert neve, not sure if the 1073 is still there.
i came along the french guys from synchronia soundskulpture, they offer the rebuild version as a kit or ready build. and the price is OK (still high), but there are other "vintage cloning companies" who do so as well.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep08/articles/soundskulptor.htm

http://rupertneve.com/

some mixer have already satisfying preamp circuits inside, that can be enough.
 
This is a bit of a misconception for a lot of folks. When you're recording you are always using a preamp. All mixers, DAW, recording interfaces, etc. with analog inputs have preamps of some kind built in. The vast majority of microphones out there use a ballanced, low impedence signal. This has to be converted to a single line level signal before recording and the preamp does this. If the device is designed properly and is of good quality, this will happen as transparently as possible. This is great for signal integrity, but not always best for "tone". Many folks like the "sound" of some preamps over others for various reasons. Many like the warmth and smooth compression offered by tube based preamps, while others like the clarity and high headroom of analog preamps. It's all about personal preference and how much money you are willing to part with. Dedicated mic preamps can sometimes work wonders in certain situations, but they are not always needed. Placing a $5000 tube preamp between a cheap, crappy mic and a noisy four track tape recorder while in a terrible sounding room isn't going to do much for your end result.
 
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