Roadster fx loop volume increase issue???

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RoadKinger483

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Whats up guys, Im having a problem with my fx loop on my roadster head. Im running a Fulltone Choralflange, MXR Carbon Copy and TC Electronic Nova Delay in the fx loop of my Roadster head. I mainly use the delays just for solo work on channels 3 and 4 that I switch in and out wit the amp footswitch and have the delays always on on channels 1 and 2. When I switch the fx loop on for a solo on channels 3 and 4 the delay comes on but with a VERY NOTICEABLE volume increase as well. I can't contrl the volume that comes with it and thus its way to loud and I have to turn the loop off. Could this be a tube problem....perhaps a preamp??? Thanx
 
What happens without the effects in the loop ? Does the volume still increase when you remove/bypass them and engage the loop ? What about the other effects ? Same or do they behave normal ?

I used the Nova Delay for a while and never noticed any volume changes when activating it.
 
The delay will be more enhanced with distortion, but is it louder with one pedal and not the other. Leave effects loop on and turn pedals off and on to see which pedals make it louder. Change out v5 if anything.
 
The volume boost happens with any of the 3 effects I mentioned whether they are on or off. Its really annoying. I can basically use the fx loop function as a solo function which I dont want. I'll try swapping V5 and see what that does.
 
I have the same thing with my 3 channel dual . Its not that noticable if I have the effects mix on 50%-60% . but higer that that its really noticable
 
I tried turning down the level before i started this thread and it was the same thing through the whole rotation in either direction. I need to try the V5 preamp swap to see what that does.
 
The part about switching the effects on/off with the footswitch on channels 3&4, and having the effects on all the time on channels 1&2 are suspect?
 
jbird said:
The part about switching the effects on/off with the footswitch on channels 3&4, and having the effects on all the time on channels 1&2 are suspect?

JBIRD: Huh? That isn't even coherent. Are you stating that you think this person's story is not believable? Let's remember specific features about the Roadster -- if the user indeed had channels 1 & 2's f/x loop-knob switched to "on" position, while the remaining channels' f/x loop-knobs were switched to "off," then the poster's story, at least from this set of facts, is entirely plausible.
 
Yes, you do need to try that preamp tube. If that doesn't work, and you've successfully ruled out your pedal, you'll need to call Mesa. Considering how close it is to the holidays, I'm not sure they are in today. They do however work Monday - Friday, so it is worth a shot. You can also contact Mesa Hollywood. They can be helpful too. You last resort would be to contact AUTHORIZED BOOGIE on this forum. I did and Tien called me back and walked me through a lot of what I thought was wrong with my amp. In the end I had a faulty tube, but the point is remains that Tien was really helpful and cared about getting my Roadster up and running.

Good luck.
 
BostonRedSox said:
jbird said:
The part about switching the effects on/off with the footswitch on channels 3&4, and having the effects on all the time on channels 1&2 are suspect?

JBIRD: Huh? That isn't even coherent. Are you stating that you think this person's story is not believable? Let's remember specific features about the Roadster -- if the user indeed had channels 1 & 2's f/x loop-knob switched to "on" position, while the remaining channels' f/x loop-knobs were switched to "off," then the poster's story, at least from this set of facts, is entirely plausible.

Umm, OK...If he did have the f/x loop knob switched on for channels 1&2, and as you state, the remaining channels f/x loop knobs were off, how would he "footswitch" (using the amp's footswitch) the delays on/off on channels 3&4? READ THE OP TO SEE WHO'S COHERENT?
 
I think he needs to check the footswitch assignment knob and cable, the f/x loop designations for each channel, and make sure the channel volumes are reasonable (9-10 o'clock),(they are essentially effect send levels), and then suspect a tube...I've never heard a faulty tube give a volume boost, but ya never know?
 
JBIRD: I'm not sure you know or understand how the Roadster works. If the knobs for the f/x are "off," then the user must depress the button marked "f/x" on the Roadster controller to engage the effects in the loop. Whatever channels are switched to f/x "on" will already have all engaged effects in the effects loop running automatically. The f/x on/off located for each channel on the Roadster allows the user to not tap dance, and just click on a channel and have the effects in the loop engaged. Do you understand? The Roadster is a bit complex, and if you don't have one or have never exercised this flexibility it can be confusing.

JBIRD: I noticed you were offended by my writing that you weren't coherent in your post. I am sorry I couldn't understand what you were writing, but it really wasn't coherent. You finished your statement with a question mark, even though it wasn't a question. Throwing stones at me and being defensive is a bit silly and unwarranted. You look sillier right now for typing in a large font "WHO'S COHERENT NOW." You haven't been coherent in either post and I can only hope you see how unruly you are being. Dude, seriously, why comment on an amp you don't have experience with? Or better yet, why call me out on something that you don't understand?

Getting back to what the poster's issues are -- clearly, if you checked the effects and your cords, then you've isolated the problem as coming from the amp itself. The next step is to figure out if it is a tube-based issue, send-level control issue, etc. There are a lot of things that can be happening. One of the best things you can do is call or contact Mesa. They are very helpful and can enlighten in ways you may not expect.
 
Hey BostonRedSox, I now realize I was incorrect in my assumption of the f/x loop status as it relates to the "on/off" switches and master foot controller. I do own a Roadster, but do not employ effects. What could also be percieved as a volume increase could be an impedence mis-match with the effects units and cables? For an experiment, I think the Choralflange has a dip-switch inside that you can default away from true bypass! Might try it!
 
My roadster acts the same with a gsystem. I tough it was engineered this way so I never believed it to be an issue. Also my loop is always on so not a problem for me. I think when I received it I even tried running only a patch cable in the fx loop and I still had a boost...

If Mesa tells you it is in fact an issue please let me know... ;)
 
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