noise gate suggestions, decimator vs gstring? in loop or not

[Shoragoth]

hi all

looking for buying noise gate.
using OD808 with 3rd channel at the moment.. and the signal is too loud.
so I heard that ISP decimator is a good solutions.
but as you probably know

there is a ISP Decimator which clean signal change at the input of amp..
and there is also ISP Decimator G string model. which can also clean the loop and and pedal chain (input) of the amp at the same time.

here is my question.
as I am using amps drive + OD808 for boost.

gate from the loop cleans the amps drive as I know.
.. should I but g string model to clean the loop as well?... or only decimator will be enough for me to be succesful?
thanks.

 

[fluff191]

If you can afford it, the G-String is the way to go. That sounded dirty.

Anyways, gating your amp AND the guitar before it hits the input is a plus.

 

[Yetti]

I had the G String too a few years ago, it did great for adding silence on the signal.
I ended up getting rid of it after it had been killing too much of the tail end of my leads. I couldn't find a balance between muted signals and too quickly muting my sound.
Now i got the Gmajor and it suits pretty **** nice in my opinion.

But they are popular and work well for many reasons!

 

[espboogie123]

I run my MaxonOD808 and an ISP Decimator in a loop in my GCX. Works great to remove the trippy noises the maxon gives when boosted in the orange/red channels.

 

[Shoragoth]

I run my MaxonOD808 and an ISP Decimator in a loop in my GCX. Works great to remove the trippy noises the maxon gives when boosted in the orange/red channels.

nice one .. but your maxon and gate is at the front of amp. not in the fx loop, am I right?

I am not using the rectifier that much loud. only the unwanted sound is coming when maxon is on..

so I dont need to buy Gstring? ISP Decimator will make my day by only cleaning the pedal chain?

 

[ifailedshapes]

I run my MaxonOD808 and an ISP Decimator in a loop in my GCX. Works great to remove the trippy noises the maxon gives when boosted in the orange/red channels.

nice one .. but your maxon and gate is at the front of amp. not in the fx loop, am I right?

I am not using the rectifier that much loud. only the unwanted sound is coming when maxon is on..

so I dont need to buy Gstring? ISP Decimator will make my day by only cleaning the pedal chain?

If your only noise source is a pedal, check out the MXR Noise Clamp. It's designed to quiet down noisy pedals.

 

[espboogie123]

nice one .. but your maxon and gate is at the front of amp. not in the fx loop, am I right?

I am not using the rectifier that much loud. only the unwanted sound is coming when maxon is on..

so I dont need to buy Gstring? ISP Decimator will make my day by only cleaning the pedal chain?

Yes, I run the Maxon and ISP Decimator in the front. Guitar -> Maxon -> ISP -> Input Roadster. I run my Maxon and ISP in a GCX loop, and always have those two on together and activate or deactivate the loop when I need the maxon. The amp itself does not create noise if maxon is off even on high gain channels. Noise is only when the maxon is on boosting the high gain channels.

Nevertheless, the ISP decimator takes removes the noise smoothly :wink:

 

[UnderJollyRoger]

If you can afford it, the G-String is the way to go. That sounded dirty.

True in so many ways :mrgreen:

I would go with the g-string, especially when you're already buying new. Don't save the few bucks. I tried the Decimator once and really liked it (inf front of the amp).

 

[Shoragoth]

what is the difference of g string and decimator..

decimator, only 1 input.. one control
Gstring 1 input 1 loop input ... one control for both 2 input...

they both have same capacity and features to remove sound.. and if I have no problem with the "amps noise" I mean where the maxon is off.. should I still go for G string..?

thinking of, there is no point to buy g string for only fx loop, where there only delay and sonic maximizer ...

may be the ISP decimator will make day..

please do not hesitate to comment..

 

[Roadifier]

The G string is nothing like the Pro rack G, It is just a regular decimator pedal with guitar tracking, so the threshold closes more accurately. It is only one decimator, not two in one pedal.

Sorry to sound like an ***, but whenever this topic is brought up, everyone thinks the G string is the same as the Pro rack G, just in pedal form, and it actually isn't.

 

[espboogie123]

the decimator is sufficient enough. No need to spend another $80-$100. Yes the decimator and gstring is the same noise reduction but gstring adds tracking to help with end trails. Not a big thing if you don't turn the threshold of the decimator up too much. Grab the decimator and enjoy it!

 

[Addictedtokaos]

I picked up the Gstring last year. I find it works great but then you run into an ground loop issue. So, you may get rid of your preamp noise but with my amp I was getting a ground loop hum. I remember taking my amp apart, changing tubes, trying to figure out where that hum was coming from... It was frustrating. I eventually added a Dual channel ground loop isolator and found it does clean up the hum 90% but not completely.

I dont completely understand why you get the ground loop but remember reading something about your signal running into the Gstring>amp>gstring>amp all sharing the same ground.

ISP suggest creating "ground lifts" to remove the ground loop but if you read into it further you will find that is a big no-no. Just spend the $50 on a behrigher hum destroyer.

 

[UnderJollyRoger]

I picked up the Gstring last year. I find it works great but then you run into an ground loop issue. So, you may get rid of your preamp noise but with my amp I was getting a ground loop hum. I remember taking my amp apart, changing tubes, trying to figure out where that hum was coming from... It was frustrating. I eventually added a Dual channel ground loop isolator and found it does clean up the hum 90% but not completely.

I dont completely understand why you get the ground loop but remember reading something about your signal running into the Gstring>amp>gstring>amp all sharing the same ground.

ISP suggest creating "ground lifts" to remove the ground loop but if you read into it further you will find that is a big no-no. Just spend the $50 on a behrigher hum destroyer.

Have you tried running it with a battery ?

 

[Roadifier]

I picked up the Gstring last year. I find it works great but then you run into an ground loop issue. So, you may get rid of your preamp noise but with my amp I was getting a ground loop hum. I remember taking my amp apart, changing tubes, trying to figure out where that hum was coming from... It was frustrating. I eventually added a Dual channel ground loop isolator and found it does clean up the hum 90% but not completely.

I dont completely understand why you get the ground loop but remember reading something about your signal running into the Gstring>amp>gstring>amp all sharing the same ground.

ISP suggest creating "ground lifts" to remove the ground loop but if you read into it further you will find that is a big no-no. Just spend the $50 on a behrigher hum destroyer.

Have you tried running it with a battery ?

Yeah, how are you powering it? That can cause ground loops if you use a 1 spot type thing. It is better to use a voodoo labs pedal power or Iso 5, so all of your power out to the pedals are isolated.

 

[Silverwulf]

Honestly, if set properly...any of the above will suit your needs just fine. The cheapest and best solution for killing noise added by juicing the front end with OD's pedal I've found has been the BOSS NS-2. I've had an OD808 -> NS2 going into the front end of my Rectos for probably 6+ years and countless gigs now, and it's dead silent with no sustain loss on leads. It's the cool thing to do to bash the NS2 on the internet, but there's a reason it's a mainstay in more pro rigs than just about any other noise gate/suppressor you'll find, and I gave all of $40 used for mine. It's durable too. I could probably run over it with my car and it would still work, haha.

 

[Addictedtokaos]

I believe I tried a battery with no help. Ive used a standard 9v and a 1spot neither made it worse or improve. Its a know issue if you check the ISP FAQs.

Also, the FX receive on the Gstring is instrument level. So unless you keep your master levels down or if you have a FX send level to play with you will get clipping with the pedal.

 

[boss4]

Boss noise supressor NS-2 here and it suits fine my needs. Use the dirty pedals (od, muff,etc) in the loop and the others off the loop. Plus can feed 6 more pedals.