Just bought a Dual Rec

The Boogie Board

Help Support The Boogie Board:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Zoomzilla

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 29, 2008
Messages
158
Reaction score
0
This is my first post in here. Sorry if I am posting in the wrong section. Anyway, i just bought a Dual Rectifier, it should be at my door on Thursday. I am pumped. I cannot wait to fire it up. I have a Marshall 1960BX cabinet waiting for it. I play thought a Les Paul with dirty fingers, so I am hoping this thing screams like I imagine it will. Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and I look forward to reading all the stuff in here. I am new to Mesa, so I don't know that much about them other than the tone.
 
I would suggest doing this for your first trial run:

set all the tone knobs to 12 noon (flat). Turn the loop off, and put the channel masters to around 10 or 11 oclock. This is a loud enough volume to get power tube saturation. After that, have fun!

BTW, diodes=tight tracking and vaccuum tubes=creamier tone with some sag
 
Elpelotero said:
I would suggest doing this for your first trial run:

set all the tone knobs to 12 noon (flat). Turn the loop off, and put the channel masters to around 10 or 11 oclock. This is a loud enough volume to get power tube saturation. After that, have fun!

BTW, diodes=tight tracking and vaccuum tubes=creamier tone with some sag

Ok, I have a lot to learn, but I will take your advice and give it a try. There are so many knobs on this beast it will take me a month to figure out what I like.
 
Zoomzilla said:
Elpelotero said:
I would suggest doing this for your first trial run:

set all the tone knobs to 12 noon (flat). Turn the loop off, and put the channel masters to around 10 or 11 oclock. This is a loud enough volume to get power tube saturation. After that, have fun!

BTW, diodes=tight tracking and vaccuum tubes=creamier tone with some sag

Ok, I have a lot to learn, but I will take your advice and give it a try. There are so many knobs on this beast it will take me a month to figure out what I like.
And do not make the mistake (like lots of people) to keep your Recto stuck on Modern mode. Modern mode has its uses but so many beautiful sounds can be had using the other modes.
 
welcome to the Mesa family. My first recommendation is read the manual thoroughly so you understand how to extract tone from the amp. It's very well written and you can pull up the pdf of the manual off the Mesa Boogie website to get started. Fun reading to get you psyched to play.
 
I agree with jab, Boogie make the best manuals. . . .they know you don't like reading them so they give you a rest break in the manual!!!! "Go get a drink!!" It's worth it. There's some good sample settings there too that illustrate some nice facets.
 
Next suggestion, seems odd, but this is what most recto users do. Keep the gain around 1 oclock, get a good boost pedal, turn the drive to zero, level to max and boost your amp, really brings the rectos to life.
 
Congrats on the amp. I'm with the guys who said read/download the manual. It's definitely well written and does more than say: "this is your mid knob, it controls your mids". It explains how things not only effect tone, but the feel of the amp as well. Very nice. I read it a few times before I got my amp and when I finally did get it, was up and rocking in no time!. Like they said, very well written and I think the best advice in the manual is that you shouldn't need extreme settings to get great tone. And I know some will not agree, but the sample presets are a great starting point to sample the capabilities and see which is similar/close to your signature tone. That all said, turn it on, let it rip and let your ears be the judge!

-dave
 
Congrats on the amp. I'm with the guys who said read/download the manual. It's definitely well written and does more than say: "this is your mid knob, it controls your mids". It explains how things not only effect tone, but the feel of the amp as well. Very nice. I read it a few times before I got my amp and when I finally did get it, was up and rocking in no time!. Like they said, very well written and I think the best advice in the manual is that you shouldn't need extreme settings to get great tone. And I know some will not agree, but the sample presets are a great starting point to sample the capabilities and see which is similar/close to your signature tone. That all said, turn it on, let it rip and let your ears be the judge!

-dave
 
Congrats on the amp. I'm with the guys who said read/download the manual. It's definitely well written and does more than say: "this is your mid knob, it controls your mids". It explains how things not only effect tone, but the feel of the amp as well. Very nice. I read it a few times before I got my amp and when I finally did get it, was up and rocking in no time!. Like they said, very well written and I think the best advice in the manual is that you shouldn't need extreme settings to get great tone. And I know some will not agree, but the sample presets are a great starting point to sample the capabilities and see which is similar/close to your signature tone. That all said, turn it on, let it rip and let your ears be the judge!

-dave
 
Elpelotero said:
I would suggest doing this for your first trial run:

set all the tone knobs to 12 noon (flat). Turn the loop off, and put the channel masters to around 10 or 11 oclock. This is a loud enough volume to get power tube saturation. After that, have fun!

BTW, diodes=tight tracking and vaccuum tubes=creamier tone with some sag

I have a tube question. I should be getting my amp tomorrow. I think i read somewhere that you can pull 2 of the tubes and that turns it into a 50W amp. Is that true? That would be cool if it were. So if I were just to play in my house and did not want to get an attenuator, could I pull 2 of the tubes and make it quieter? What do you all do to get a decent sound at a reasonable volume (non gigging)
 
If you have a Dual Rectifier, then yes, you can pull two tubes to run it at 50w. You need to pull either the two inside tubes or the two outside tubes. Then you also need to pull out a rectifier tube (either one). So that's a total of 3 tubes. Afterwards, be sure to run the amp from the 4ohm jack, no longer the 8ohm jack.

Don't be fooled though...50w is only a 3 decibel decrease in sound from 100w. This means you really will not hear much of a difference in volume at all. It will still be loud and you will still need to crank it loud to get the tubes cooking. More importantly, when you run down to 50w, the feel of the amp itself changes. It's almost like putting a honda engine in a ferrari.

To play at low volumes, an attenuator is really your only solution. Only you can be the judge of how loud is acceptable and whether or not you'll need an attenuator.
 
Elpelotero said:
If you have a Dual Rectifier, then yes, you can pull two tubes to run it at 50w. You need to pull either the two inside tubes or the two outside tubes. Then you also need to pull out a rectifier tube (either one). So that's a total of 3 tubes. Afterwards, be sure to run the amp from the 4ohm jack, no longer the 8ohm jack.

Don't be fooled though...50w is only a 3 decibel decrease in sound from 100w. This means you really will not hear much of a difference in volume at all. It will still be loud and you will still need to crank it loud to get the tubes cooking. More importantly, when you run down to 50w, the feel of the amp itself changes. It's almost like putting a honda engine in a ferrari.

To play at low volumes, an attenuator is really your only solution. Only you can be the judge of how loud is acceptable and whether or not you'll need an attenuator.

Well if there is only a 3db change, forget it. I am going to leave it where it is. I may or may not need an attenuator. I will be running at 16ohms. I have a Marshall 1960BX cabinet and currently its 16ohms. I was thinking about wiring up another jack and wiring it paralell to have a 4 ohm jack if I want it. I am not sure the sound will be greatly different. I know the amp will work harder, but I don't know tone wise if it will make a huge difference.
 
With two tubes pulled, it's easier to push the amp into power tube distortion. The whole feel of the amp does change, but I personally prefer only using two power tubes. Besides that, it's cheaper to retube when you only run two tubes.

As for the rectifier tubes, you only need to pull one if you are using the tube rectifier. If you use the diodes, there's no need to pull a rectifier.
 
Back
Top