Triaxis sounding like a Solid State??

[mightywarlock]

So the other guitar player in my band (who plays out of a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe) and I have been working on setting up a workable tone for me to use with my rig (i have been using a 2:90, Triaxis, G-force, 2x12), and after awhile of tweaking with the Triaxis, he kept commenting that he thought it sounded like a solid state amp. He was preferring my Marshall JMP-1, or even my ADA MP-1 3TM to the triaxis set up. I even just sold my Triple Rectifier, Recto Preamp, and am selling a Dual Recto as i dont think they work right for the sound with this band...and wanted the money to buy something that would work better...
He and I share different tastes in tone, obviously, but what do you folks thing. does the Triaxis sound warm and full sounding to you, or like a solid state??
could it just be the settings we were using? we ended up setting up a sound using Lead 2 Yellow. i feel my sound is nice and tight and crunchy, but i feel i don't really fit in with this band sometimes...and am even considering an ACE to use instead with this band. But since i have so much gear already, i feel it is just a matter of tweaking the tones correctly, coming up with a patch that will work better for them.
listen to the band here...
www.phantom357.com
i am not playing on those recordings, and i believe they were done with a line6 toneport thing, but i feel that is the sound he is trying to have me get...which of course, i feel my tone is far superior to that! but i want to fit with the sound of the band.
anyone have any comments or suggestions?
It just blows me away that anyone would think it sounds like a solid state, but i can understand somewhat, as my old ADA MP-1 sounds warmer than the Triaxis sometimes...

thanks...

 

[ibanezgtr]

I think using the Dynamic Voice sometimes makes it sound like my old Pod Pro. I turn off the DV and get great tube tone!! Use the voicings on the 290.

 

[disassembled]

The DV is solid state but i feel it degrades the overall sound quality. If you use it at a setting of no more than 3 I think it adds enough bass for any heavier music style. For sure it doesn't compare to having a full fledged EQ section such as the mark series amps have.


On my my Mark IV and Quad I like the tone with or without the EQ but the TA it seems to be better with just a low setting or without the DV completely.

If you can go try a Mark II, III, IV, Quad, Studio Pre, etc to get a real feel of how to use the GEQ sections of these amps. Then come back to the TA and you should have a better understanding. You don't always need the EQ engaged on those amps and it stands true for the TA as well.

Greg

 

[mightywarlock]

do you think there is a need for a Mark IV is i already have a Triaxis?

and do you think the EQ of my Gforce would be good enough to add as an EQ to for Triaxis? I have yet to even learn how to program my Gforce.

 

[ToneAddictJon]

I would run the outs of the triaxis to the G-Force and run the EQ's in it, that gives you a huge variety of tones without having to mess with the DV.

 

[JAZZGEAR]

I would run the outs of the triaxis to the G-Force and run the EQ's in it, that gives you a huge variety of tones without having to mess with the DV.

+1

 

[masque]

i have to honestly say that I think there must be a problem with the programming or tweaking your friend is doing. I think the triaxis is extremely "non-solid state" sounding. The trixis is not easy to find the sweetspot with any mode you are using but once you get very familiar with it i beleive it is one of the most versitile units I have ever seen. YOu can click on the links listed below in my signature etc....for sound clips of my band that showcase the triaxis pretty much exclusively. check out all of the clips but the clips for "my surprise" and "sinner" on the my space link has moments in the song that the lead is a very creamy and tube sounding david gilmour kind of stuff....anyway enough rambling check them out and let me know what you think.

 

[mightywarlock]

here is the setting i am currently using with my band, that the other guitar player came up with.
lead 2 yellow
deep and modern on 290
Gain - 8.0
Treble - 6.0
Middle- 3.0
Bass- 3.0
Lead1-0.0
lead2- 6.0
Master- 3.0
Presence- 4.5
Dynamic- 8.0
can someone try this out and tell me what you think?
also, i learned how to use the parametric EQ in the G-force finally tonight and played with it a little, and it does seem able to "warm" things up a little, but overusing it can definitely be not too good.
but check out those settings and let me know if you can think of some way to make that sounds better, for this particular style of guitar sound.

thanks

 

[disassembled]

Running the DV at 8 is like have a huge smiley face running on the GEQ and is probably why it sounds "solid state" to you. Mesa scooped the hell out of the DV which degrades the tone a bit IMO.

I say work really hard on your tone without the DV and without using any effects. Here's some of my settings:

All modes are off on the 290 and the Presence is at 100% for low to medium practice volumes.

LD2Y

6
8
1
3.5
0
4
4.5
6.5
0


another patch with DV added

7
7
3
1
0
4
4.5
6
5


The louder you play the less you need the DV IMO. I don't think you should use DV for liquidy leads but more for rhythm stuff.


Greg

 

[mightywarlock]

The louder you play the less you need the DV IMO. I don't think you should use DV for liquidy leads but more for rhythm stuff.

go back and click on the link for the sound/style of the music.
www.phantom357.com
it's mostly rhythm, but some other stuff and small leads as well...

 

[PC Biz]

I've heard Triaxis clips on this forum that sound somewhat solid state, and have heard others that capture the dynamics of the Quad and Mark series perfectly. To get more 'tubeness' swap the pre amp tubes.

Here's a clue: I put some relatively new Sovtek tubes from an old Trem-O-Verb into a '78 Fender Twin Reverb I recently bought, and there it was again ... that solid state sound! That's why I took them out of the T-verb in the first place. Now the sound of the Sovteks was better than the fried Phillips tubes in the Twin, but they are definitely not keepers. I keep these tubes around just for emergencies.

Once you swap the tubes, look into getting higher quality cables. High end cables like the Mogami Platinum series will give your signals a boost, a lot like a clean boost pedal according to some users.

I'll post some Triaxis clips one of these days. Mine is rigged with a 2:100, Peavey Valverb and Furman power conditioner. It's a pretty simple five space setup.

So your sound is just hiding in the Triaxis right now, and you've got to find it. Have fun experimenting!