Roadster combo? Or rackmount recto pre?

[screamingdaisy]

How do you see, or hear tubes rattle if the the speakers are blasting such a volume that makes the whole combo shake?????

Turn on your amp, reach around back and flick the power tubes with your finger. That flick is amplified and transmitted through the speakers.

Now imagine a speaker around 4 or 5 inches away.

Some combos are worse than others.

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

Also, Recto amps aren't known for their ease of dialling in. They're not known to be great 'solo/lead' amps, either. Rhythm? No trouble. If you want singing, liquid sustain, these amps need help via a boost/OD pedal (TS9, 808 type pedals, other OD pedals) to push the front end. The pedals also cear up some of the mud. An EQ in the loop helps greatly, too (some users don't like EQ's). There's plenty of info on these boards regarding pedals and EQ's for Recto amps, so search. These amps are not plug and play. I'd say the Peavey would be alot easier to dial in (I own a JSX and it is an easy amp to dial in and get along with). You'll find that rectos sound best turned up loud, so don't expect bedroom levels to blow you away with tone.quote]



I believe Recto are extremely easy to dial in...providing you know what you're looking for.
Additionally, I'd agree that while they're not the best for solo-ing, they do offer something very distintive in cleans and rhythms (you know what you're hearing when you hear it). You can always add, as I did, a second preamp (studio), for your lead phrases.
My two pre rig is exceedingly simple and yet my tone has enormous amounts of depth and richness through a pair of 2X12 cabs.

 

[Blaklynx]

I believe Recto are extremely easy to dial in...providing you know what you're looking for.
Additionally, I'd agree that while they're not the best for solo-ing, they do offer something very distintive in cleans and rhythms (you know what you're hearing when you hear it). You can always add, as I did, a second preamp (studio), for your lead phrases.
My two pre rig is exceedingly simple and yet my tone has enormous amounts of depth and richness through a pair of 2X12 cabs.

That's the problem (I highlighted in your quote). New users can take quite some time, even several weeks to find what they want (in posts I've read). Users coming from Marshall's, Peavey's, etc expect the tone controls on Recto amps to behave the same way so they get caught out. Seasoned users have no problems, obviously.

Interesting that you added a studio preamp for your lead phrases. Do you run it out front or in the loop?

I posted some time ago (with attachment) on how to use a parallel loop pedal in the effects loop of an amp. Attached to the parallel loop pedal are preamp/s. This setup works great if you don't want or can't afford midi controlled gear. With the parallel loop pedal, you can run; amp or preamp or both at the same time (blend); or guitar straight to amp's power amp (bypassing all preamps). I did this and it works a treat. Here's the post http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=46915. Now the parallel loop pedal that I have is not your standard 'loop pedal'. It's got great features such as phase switch, volume controls per loop and dry/wet settings per loop. This pedal is a real ripper. I don't know if they're still available. I should check.

 

[TremoJem]

I am not entirely in agreement with the statement that Rectos are NOT easy to dial in.

I think as others have posted you have to know the amp and be patient...oh and know what the hell you are looking for in a sound.

 

[Seanthesheep]

Thats a very interesting idea, ising a preamp for leads and the recto for rhytym and cleans.

But ive also been hearing the roadsters leads are alot better tjan a normal 3ch rectos leads, is this true? Because itd make things alot easier for me and the setup im thinking. Well id be coming up from a peavey 6534, can anyone give me some eqing advice for rectos in general but more specifically roadsters? Im starting to really really like the ideal of the roadster 212 combo with a roadster cab, but i wont buy one if i cant get the eqing right

 

[screamingdaisy]

I have a 2ch Recto and a Roadster. I personally find the Roadster is capable of producing a much better lead tone. I can't comment on the 3 channels.

 

[Seanthesheep]

Well thats all good to hear i guess, but one last questoon. In case i decide to keep my peavey, ill want to get a cab thatll benefit both the peavey and a roadster head.

Right now ive been liking the orange 212 for my peavey but i havent really looked nuch so almost everything is an option except my current cab. Id much rather it be a 212 cab but if its a 412 thats best then ill buy that, as i have the room and strength

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

I believe Recto are extremely easy to dial in...providing you know what you're looking for.
Additionally, I'd agree that while they're not the best for solo-ing, they do offer something very distintive in cleans and rhythms (you know what you're hearing when you hear it). You can always add, as I did, a second preamp (studio), for your lead phrases.
My two pre rig is exceedingly simple and yet my tone has enormous amounts of depth and richness through a pair of 2X12 cabs.

That's the problem (I highlighted in your quote). New users can take quite some time, even several weeks to find what they want (in posts I've read). Users coming from Marshall's, Peavey's, etc expect the tone controls on Recto amps to behave the same way so they get caught out. Seasoned users have no problems, obviously.

Interesting that you added a studio preamp for your lead phrases. Do you run it out front or in the loop?

I posted some time ago (with attachment) on how to use a parallel loop pedal in the effects loop of an amp. Attached to the parallel loop pedal are preamp/s. This setup works great if you don't want or can't afford midi controlled gear. With the parallel loop pedal, you can run; amp or preamp or both at the same time (blend); or guitar straight to amp's power amp (bypassing all preamps). I did this and it works a treat. Here's the post http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=46915. Now the parallel loop pedal that I have is not your standard 'loop pedal'. It's got great features such as phase switch, volume controls per loop and dry/wet settings per loop. This pedal is a real ripper. I don't know if they're still available. I should check.

Actually it's easy with a GCX...essentially A/B-ing the pre's (each with their own pedal config) and then onto a common FX unit then power amp.

 

[Seanthesheep]

yea, thinking it over, unless i decide on an AxeFx, im most likely going to get the roadster 2x12 combo with either a custom headshell for the chassis only and a recto 4x12 or a mesa 2x12 roadster extension cab.