Road King 1 vs 2 channel Dual Rec for metal

[warped]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has played a Road King and 2 channel DR and could comment on the High gain sounds from each? (there's one of each on Aus ebay at the moment that I'm thinking of bidding on)

Would a Road King handle low tunings better as it can be run with more power (4x6L6's + 2xEL34's makes 120W, vs the 100W Dual)?

Are Road Kings just as tight/smooth as the 2 Channel DR's? Or are they tighter/looser feeling?

Would using a G-Major would work better with the Road King due to the series loop option?

Would they both be just as reliable as each other?

Thanks guys -D

 

[clutch71]

The RK is going to have better cleans. The cleans on older 2ch's, depending on the rev, are mediocre at best.

The Rk has a lot of features that I felt for my playing situation and style of music that I play, I just would not use. I.E. two loops, speaker selection, tuner mute, Progressive linkage.

The RK does offer a great tone pallet for endless tinkering. I have played several and really enjoyed trying different settings and different cab choices with them. Something again I just didn't have time for. My 2 ch DR is pretty much set it and for get it.

I'd say first try both if you can. Then I would break down this way...if you plan to cover a wide range of music and have the money, go with the RK.

If you like the rectifier HiGain sounds and decent cleans and want to save some moeny go with the 2 Ch.

Good luck.

 

[vic]

+1 im with clutch im in aus and ive got a rev g dual and love it the cleans are pretty good the best on a 2 chan the rk one on ebay is a great price
but if you need just a clean and a highgain go with the 2 chan if you need all that other **** and the rk has better cleans that go with the rk

 

[Elpelotero]

in theory, the 120w will give you more headroom and thus a tigher bass response, which could be useful when tuning down low. You can even go a step further and go for a Triple Rectifier that has 150watts.

How low do you tune and how tight do you want the sound? A 2ch recto will pretty much sound like most of the music from the 90's.

 

[warped]

I guess the rarity of second hand recto's popping up on the used market is what was determining whether I go for the Road King or a 2 channel dual (the roadking 1 just sold for on ebay for $3800 so I didn't bother).

We are tuning to both C# and G# (yes it's very low but it's been that way since I joined the band, and it does allow for some interesting sounds - sometimes at the cost of a clarity) www.myspace.com/symbiosist has and indication of what we sound like (looking back on that recording we had too much gain on guitars for multi-tracking) and I've since started with the Maxon OD808 to give a bit more clarity on attack.

I have been looking into a dual amp setup - or at least want to have 2 good amps to use (even keep one as a backup or something to use for extra available sounds when we get to recording again).. My main amp is a Aus made Sherlock FatHead.

If it was all a bit cheaper/more available on the used market I'd have no probs hanging out for a roadster/2 chan triple/roadking2 but I'm not going to hold my breath, and I dont' want to be paying in the $5000-$7000 range for a new head (which is what these things cost new in Aus)

I'll see how I go with the 2 channel on ebay at the moment...

Thanks guys!

 

[Elpelotero]

if you want to keep things simple, go for a 2ch Triple rec and use your pedal to get it tighter and clearer. If you went for a 1992 recto, you may not need the pedal, but you already have it so no need to go nuts.

From what i've read here, the Roadking version 2 is similar to a 2ch rectifier in terms of distortion sound. I've only played a road king version 1 and I liked the sound on my rectos better. Of course, that's just me.

 

[Silverwulf]

There's virtually an inaudible volume difference between 100W and 150W. It's not as simple as "Amp X has more watts than "Amp Z, so it must be louder and tighter". The player will make twice as much of an impact on how "tight" a sound is over whether you're using a Triple or Dual Rec. You might notice a slight - very slight - difference in how loud the clean headroom can go without breaking up, but you won't notice a significant difference otherwise. Our ears just can't perceive the volume difference, especially with a lot of gain running through it. I'd bet 9/10 or more of the "tightest" tones you've ever heard live or recorded were with 100W tube or less, and I doubt you'd ever find a situation where you'd need more than 50W, whether you're playing a small bar or Madison Square Garden.

 

[vic]

hey warped is the dual your after on ebay the one for 2499?

 

[clutch71]

Warped, After listening to your Myspace clip, I'd think a 2ch DR would do just fine. Especially with the Maxon OD out front. I wouldn't get real caught up in trying for a specific revision. Rev G's with a good OD outfront to my ears sound like the older revisions and they are much cheaper more readily available. The RK, while a great amp; has so many features that based on that clip, I don't think you'd use.

I would recommend a quad of El34's and possibly a Stilleto cab to really focus the attack with the down tunnings you use. While I like the guitars sound of the type of music you play, I've always felt the vocals take away from the guitar and bass. Not knocking your clip just pointing out a personal preference.

Let us know how things turn out. Good luck.