Boogiebabies
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igfraso said:
Your totally correct, but the C+ production was truly between 12500 and 14500. I have never seen a C+ over 14,500 and I have obviosly paid strict attention. I have been trakcing serial numbers for years and can basically get you the month made by the serial number. With the exception that an amp sat for final payment before final teching. The earliest I have seen in person is a week 6. The supposed 2500 C+'s in existence has so far been impssible to prove. They pop up in May 84 and dissapear around June of 85. My long time Boogie comfidant Ian at The Boogie Files has seen the actual 15000 IIC+, but it's a blur between 14500 and up. IMO, there are 2000 of which 750 or so are Simuls, not including non graphic models. Mike B. is very interested in my findings, and of course he will be the first to know. He's an inpsiration to me and his knowlede is vast, but what most of you do not know is that in October 84' Randall Smith had to assume final teching. I have and extremely rare IIC+ with the tech initals RCS, not MB like the other two. Mike had been called off to tech out some amp issues in a Artist Rep role for a guy names Prince on the Purple Rain tour. I have been accused of picking his brain, but if you don't know what your talking about, how could you get the answers you hope to get answered. We have been on the same page every time when we speak and he has an enormous memory for most of the C+ production. He's even jokingly told me to " Write this **** down". When asked why he said, " So someone else can remember all this crap".
Do you guy's even know when and why the C+ modification came about?
I have been on the lookout long enough to observe some variations on the 12300 to 12400 IIC models, getting a recent e-mail from a forum member that showed me a IIC I. It is by far a serialed IIC with a totally different circuit layout and a " Pull Deep" face plate. The serial number was well below the official +. I could have spend my time researching archological data on ealry humanoids found in Kenya, but I have a passion not only to learn about the IIC+ and it's entire history. i am without a doubt a self made IIC+ historian and alternate keeper of the archives. In the process, I have tried and helped over 50 people verify their amps via photos. The reason all goes back to the first encounter in 85'. The quest for knowledge on Mesa's Holy Grail has not stopped since.
My conviction will not change about the IIC+. In retrospect, I have never diminished the MK III or IV in any way other than the MK III black dot for being Henry Winkler covered in Bees. The simple fact is that the progression of the MK III and MK IV have all led to amps with a refined charachter. They are awesome in their own right, but do not have the feeling that they are loud, brown and on the edge of out of contol. Up to the MK III Red and Green Stripe, as with the MK IV, you have alterations in the amps that basically make them extremely sweet sounding amps.
I think it's time to let each amp be what it is opposed to the unrivaled original. Have we ever thought that the MK IV is the culmination of what Mesa had always envisioned the IIC+ to sound like? Were the MK III Stripes and IV A the road to the ultimate MK series?
Sitting here with 5 MK series amps and 9 different cabinets I can happily say they I am totally satisfied with each MK series amp. With 23 years of looking, I am totally amazed at what each MK series gives me, but to say one is better than the other is misinformation. I simply appreciate the subtle nuances that they seperately bring.
There are a few things in life I learned that will always be values that I will bear until my departing.
1. Don't bullshit a bullshitter. I was born with inate sense.
2. If you do something, do it the best you can and do it right.
3. It's my way or the highway. Learned from my mentor.
4. Don't piss into the wind.
5. Be honest and helpful to others.
6. God is all around us and is our salvation and inspiration.
7. My family is everything, including some of you guys.
That's who I am. If you want to make a biased opinion because you have no other experience or product use, I will have no problem opening my mouth. If I am wrong, I apologize, but with most forums and people in general, they just do not seem to have the maturity to suck it up.
This board is awesome. I have great respect for Antoine, Russ, Joey, Shep, Restless Rocks, Boogie Wan, Marco and Reeko81. As always, if anyone needs help, I am here. In reality, you guys keep feeding my fire and I learn something new from all of you.
Miguel is like a penpal. A bright guy with a good attitude and intelligence.
Now if we could just get Bionuker out of hiding, we would be set. Nicko, Riccardo and Ken Dove have been a blast to work with. IIC+ simul OT upgrades, MK IIIC+ mods and converting a Fetron MK I to a stock circuit have been a blast.
Don't mess with Marco ( Dark Irish ) were distant cousins.
How's that for some Sunday night reading.
I would like to dedicate this post to Dennis Miller. 8)
