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I think most companies are like that. There is no revising marshalls... there is hot rodding done by someone if you want a slightly different marshall, but they don't usually put out an amp and then tweak the channels and put it out again.

the 5150 hasnt changed.. technically became the 5150 ii but its fundamentally the same, although a slightly differntly circuit.

most companies put out a product and say... this is what it is... its fine like this wait 5-10 years if you want something else. (jcm 800 did that really change?, arguably the plexis did, but they were dealing with whatever parts they could get)

mesa is one of the few who says here is a product... we're gonna keep working on it and put out any tweaked revisions we come up with.. so there will be a new version.. whether it is just a mark 5 b or mark 6 and how long its gonna be are the unknowns.
 
dmcguitar said:
mesa is one of the few who says here is a product... we're gonna keep working on it and put out any tweaked revisions we come up with.. so there will be a new version.. whether it is just a mark 5 b or mark 6 and how long its gonna be are the unknowns.

Where I work, they call it "continuous improvement". I figure this was the concept when the MkIII was introduced with its R2 channel. It only took 24 years and multiple revisions to get a R2 that pleases MOST users of the MkV. :D
 
I for one think that revisions are a great customer service that MB provides us. It proves that they are listening and willing to do what it takes to give us the tones and features that we want.
 
CudBucket said:
ryjan said:
Well, you have to give your customers what they want, right.

I have to say I really think Randall tried to do that with the Mark V. The biggest gripe IMO, that people have with the Mark IV is that the R2 could be better. The Mark V delivers that. And I think Randall did his best to satisfy those who want a IIC+ revision.

+1

I think most companies are like that. There is no revising marshalls... there is hot rodding done by someone if you want a slightly different marshall, but they don't usually put out an amp and then tweak the channels and put it out again.

the 5150 hasnt changed.. technically became the 5150 ii but its fundamentally the same, although a slightly differntly circuit.

most companies put out a product and say... this is what it is... its fine like this wait 5-10 years if you want something else. (jcm 800 did that really change?, arguably the plexis did, but they were dealing with whatever parts they could get)

mesa is one of the few who says here is a product... we're gonna keep working on it and put out any tweaked revisions we come up with.. so there will be a new version.. whether it is just a mark 5 b or mark 6 and how long its gonna be are the unknowns.

+1

we have to be patient w/ mesa, but at least the changes come at all. i mean, on the one hand, a mod/hot-rod market built up pretty strongly around marshalls and the whole evh sound, but mesa's are custom-ish from the get go.
 
The only problem I see occuring from "continuous improvment" is that If i buy an amp today, and next month they improve it, i miss out, although from what ive read mesa usually will upgrade if its possible... the IIs and IIIs were able to go to c+ at some point when that was the main thing. obviously the IV to the V isnt possilbe..

but i think the orignial stilletos can't be made into v.2

i hope any changes they make would be simple, so people that have them can get the newer version, if they want it

(i work in IT, and software is always improved, if a company makes you pay for every upgrade thats bad business)
 
ryjan said:
Well, you have to give your customers what they want, right. How arrogant would you have to be to make an amp and have every customer say "channel 2 is too dark" and tell them "No it isnt, thats how I made it to sound". Or he could revise it, and re-release it, and make everyone happy. I'd rether give my customers what they want.

Not all customers agree with you. I happen to like Ch. 2 "As Is" I really enjoy the darker nature of that channel & mode.
 
JAZZGEAR said:
ryjan said:
Well, you have to give your customers what they want, right. How arrogant would you have to be to make an amp and have every customer say "channel 2 is too dark" and tell them "No it isnt, thats how I made it to sound". Or he could revise it, and re-release it, and make everyone happy. I'd rether give my customers what they want.

Not all customers agree with you. I happen to like Ch. 2 "As Is" I really enjoy the darker nature of that channel & mode.
+1 Jazz...its a versatile monster when dialed in correctly...it meshes well with my EV cabs as well
 

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