siggy14
Well-known member
I just had to chime in, what realy pisses me off is when people trash other amps, so now it is my turn.
First the thread was high gain amps, i didnt see anything about it having to be tube, with that being said, line 6 has as much or more gain then most recto's depending on what model you choose. As to people thinking that Solid State cant be a high gain monster, look at dimebag, he used Randalls had some of the thickest and sickest distortion out there.
If you ask me at high gain is where line 6 thrive, if anything it is there lower gain stuff that you can start telling the difference, but at the high gain it is hard.
Second, if you think line 6 sucks in tone, is buzzy etc.. that is only because it is modeling the specific amp which happens to be buzzy or thin. I can get some of my highest gain, thickest sounding distortion from line 6 stuff. Or the second reason is you just do not know how to dial it in! Like with any amp you need to take some time and play with different settings.
Now the only way i can see it getting thin or crappy sounding is if you turn it up to high, but that is all solid state stuff. But in all honesty, i do not know many places anymore that you need pure volume, most every place i play or have seen bands use PA's now, hell most of the times you can not even get your amp above 2 or 3 without them bitching!
And for all you tube junkies, i could take 4 amps, 3 tube and one line 6 and record the same clip on all four and I can tell you right now, 99.9% of the people would not know which is which.
now for those doubting me, i have probaly owned more amps then the a majority of the peoples combined amps on this board, yes i know there will be a few people like me that have owned alot, so i cant say everyone. but with that being said i have put my flextone II and my Vetta up against the real things, and here is what i can tell you, they were almost exact, only difference was the Vetta had a little more top end on the uber then the actuall uber, but the vetta had a thicker and more gain on the uber then the actuall uber.
But to be fair, I could put two ubers, or two recto's up against each other and they will not sound exact either, that is just how amps are.
As to the Mesa model, almost exact, but here is where my big grip comes in. I wish line 6 would allow you more control over the models, examples would be on the mesa they model alot of the Rec's on tube rectifier, i do not know many people that actually use the tube rectifiers on there rec's and I much prefer the solid state Rectifiers.
Basicaly I use my Pod 2.0's for recording and messing around, giving guitar lessons etc... When it comes to live playing i use my XTC, why because i am not a high gain freak anymore and like i said earlier, real amps do sound better then the line 6 stuff on medium to low gain.
On a side not, i have seen many bands taking a pod pro plugging directly into the PA system and the tone was to die for! Putting the pod's through PA's sound great, like someone also said, there lower end models sound like crap once you turn them up, but great for practice.
First the thread was high gain amps, i didnt see anything about it having to be tube, with that being said, line 6 has as much or more gain then most recto's depending on what model you choose. As to people thinking that Solid State cant be a high gain monster, look at dimebag, he used Randalls had some of the thickest and sickest distortion out there.
If you ask me at high gain is where line 6 thrive, if anything it is there lower gain stuff that you can start telling the difference, but at the high gain it is hard.
Second, if you think line 6 sucks in tone, is buzzy etc.. that is only because it is modeling the specific amp which happens to be buzzy or thin. I can get some of my highest gain, thickest sounding distortion from line 6 stuff. Or the second reason is you just do not know how to dial it in! Like with any amp you need to take some time and play with different settings.
Now the only way i can see it getting thin or crappy sounding is if you turn it up to high, but that is all solid state stuff. But in all honesty, i do not know many places anymore that you need pure volume, most every place i play or have seen bands use PA's now, hell most of the times you can not even get your amp above 2 or 3 without them bitching!
And for all you tube junkies, i could take 4 amps, 3 tube and one line 6 and record the same clip on all four and I can tell you right now, 99.9% of the people would not know which is which.
now for those doubting me, i have probaly owned more amps then the a majority of the peoples combined amps on this board, yes i know there will be a few people like me that have owned alot, so i cant say everyone. but with that being said i have put my flextone II and my Vetta up against the real things, and here is what i can tell you, they were almost exact, only difference was the Vetta had a little more top end on the uber then the actuall uber, but the vetta had a thicker and more gain on the uber then the actuall uber.
But to be fair, I could put two ubers, or two recto's up against each other and they will not sound exact either, that is just how amps are.
As to the Mesa model, almost exact, but here is where my big grip comes in. I wish line 6 would allow you more control over the models, examples would be on the mesa they model alot of the Rec's on tube rectifier, i do not know many people that actually use the tube rectifiers on there rec's and I much prefer the solid state Rectifiers.
Basicaly I use my Pod 2.0's for recording and messing around, giving guitar lessons etc... When it comes to live playing i use my XTC, why because i am not a high gain freak anymore and like i said earlier, real amps do sound better then the line 6 stuff on medium to low gain.
On a side not, i have seen many bands taking a pod pro plugging directly into the PA system and the tone was to die for! Putting the pod's through PA's sound great, like someone also said, there lower end models sound like crap once you turn them up, but great for practice.
