BTBAM Tones For Dual Recto

[xedwinx206]

looking for some help getting a BTBAM sound from the dual recto. any help with settings is greatly appreciated
thanks
edwin song

 

[jtb226]

BTBAM?

 

[xedwinx206]

Between The Buried And Me

 

[CaughtLikeFire]

Between The Buried And Me

which album?

I just popped in the self-titled album and there's less gain than I initially thought - a lot of the heaviness comes from the drop tuning and good engineering as far as keeping the bass guitar frequencies and lead guitar frequencies where they belong..

power chords sound very clear and harmonically rich . . . decent amount of mids for what was ( at least at the time when it came out) a pretty hard-hitting metalcore album . . .


I would definitely run EL34s to get those midrange harmonics (Groove Tubes E34L 30W would be my pick to get extra low end but Mesa factory EL34s would be ok). For the preamp, you could probably stick with factory Sovtek/EH tubes or use something like a Tung Sol reissue to get lots of clarity. I would not go JJ ECC83 - do dark and rounded - not enough attack.

As far as settings, I'm playing a Stiletto now so I can't give exact dial positions . . . :lol:

. . . but try keeping your gain below 12:00 and cranking the master. sounds kinda cliched since it's recommended a lot on this board but I'm not hearing a crazy amount of gain on that album. you need some decent power tube distortion to get that tone.

I would not recommend doing the typical metalcore mid-scoop either. keep your mids slightly lower than the bass - still strong in the mix.

sorry it's not much but it's a start in the right direction I hope. tube choice will definitely make a difference here, particularly the EL34 power section.

edit - just read your earlier post. Metal Matt has some great advice in there - good starting point for actual knob positions. unless you have a 1960V (vintage) cab, you have the Celestion G12-75T speakers instead of the V30s. they have a little more of a mid-scoop by nature so that only reinforces the need to run EL34-type tubes and reclaim some mids.

 

[xedwinx206]

im thinking of their newer albums like silent circus, and alaska?
thanks
edwin song

 

[CaughtLikeFire]

im thinking of their newer albums like silent circus, and alaska?
thanks
edwin song

Never got into it as much but still a decent album. the production is better and mixed with a different approach but the guitar tone is not drastically different. all my previous comments still stand.

As far as Alaska, never listened to BTBAM after all the member changes so I can't comment.

 

[Platypus]

One of my favorites.. just saw and met them the other night.

Paul uses a 2 channel blackface ractkifier and Dusty uses an orange thunderverb 200. I snapped a pic of Dusty's board but it's mostly boss effects. They were all super nice guys. I didn't get a chance to see Paul's settings up close but he was in the Orange channel most of the evening if that helps you.

There is not a lot of gain in their album or live tone. The C# tuning accounts for most of that punch

 

[CaughtLikeFire]

There is not a lot of gain in their album or live tone. The C# tuning accounts for most of that punch

cool, I'm not alone on this then

I missed my chance to hang out / play a few shows with them back in 2003. Had just left my hardcore band to get a "real" job . . . never got to see/hear them live.

 

[Platypus]

They're fantastic live.. they played their new album cover to cover with very few breaks and encored with selkies. They're definitely an amazingly talented and unique band who defy a genre label

 

[MetalMatt]

I posted this in your "getting brutal..." I dont know how old it is. Hope it helps.

http://www.smnnews.com/board/showthread.php?t=114976

 

[CaughtLikeFire]

I posted this in your "getting brutal..." I dont know how old it is. Hope it helps.

http://www.smnnews.com/board/showthread.php?t=114976

nice! 8)

 

[MesaENGR412]

They're fantastic live.. they played their new album cover to cover with very few breaks and encored with selkies. They're definitely an amazingly talented and unique band who defy a genre label

Selkies is one of my favorite songs by them, i love how heavy, yet how light and jazzy they can get, to me it just shows that they are amazing musicians. They just came to Charlotte not too long ago, but i missed them.

-AJH