Boogie what's next?

[mccart125]

Mini Roadster please!!

Lone star circuit for clean, Road/Rec dirty..

Low wattage.

Prob wont happen, too close to mini rec, but one can dream..

 

[Hollis]

I think the perfect amp would be an Electradyne set up like a Lonestar or Stilleto. 2 completely separate channels with Output/Solo controls. Either have power scaling:90/45/10 watts or have a built in attenuator per mode like the Royal Atlantic. 3 completely independent channels or 2 channels: clean and hi/low with a 3 button footswitch. Independent reverb per channel

 

[Bob acfix]

I've kept my V-Twin for emergencies and regard it as one of my better purchases. It made my Red Knob Twin sound really good !!!! I think it might have been pulled from the market because it did such a good job of making average amps sound excellent that it was effecting the amp sales
I think a Mesa version of the T-Rex Spin Doctor would be a killer for me.

 

[robertkoa]

I like a Mini Something like Elektradyne if it has nice cleans and singing low medium and high gain tones.

6V6s nice and a load switch to use as silent recording into Cab IRs for Studio.

Also a 1 watt Mode ......

 

[screamingdaisy]

A Mark V with Road King style progressive linkage.

45w 6L6 clean, 45w EL34 Crunch, 90w Simul-Class leads.

I'd happily give up 10w mode for that option.

Bonus points if they make it as a Colosseum version w/ 4x6L6 and 2xEL34

 

[ryjan]

A Mark V with Road King style progressive linkage.

45w 6L6 clean, 45w EL34 Crunch, 90w Simul-Class leads.

I'd happily give up 10w mode for that option.

Bonus points if they make it as a Colosseum version w/ 4x6L6 and 2xEL34

This is what I think they should work on as well. Some other options that would be kewl...

Ditch Extreme mode and replace it with a recto voicing.

MIDI switching including the modes.

Prog linkage with 4 6l6 and 2 el34 tubes with options of running all 4 6l6 in ab, 2 each in Simul-class, or all 6 in "Aggro" mode. :twisted:

Ditch the recto tracking/diode option.

Call it the Mark V+

 

[Monsta-Tone]

Mini Roadster please!!

Lone star circuit for clean, Road/Rec dirty..

Low wattage.

Prob wont happen, too close to mini rec, but one can dream..

This is almost exactly what I want!

Lonestar cleans
Lonestar reverb (channel 1 only)
Recto OD (channel 2)
Mark V Lead (channel 3)
Solo Function
Graphic EQ
25 watt (No Multi-Watt settings, I never use them)
1x12 combo (Widebody - w/Tone Tubby ceramic or Mojotone BV-25H speaker)
Tan alligator leather/tolex

Guess it's basically a Mini-Mark V, but without all the stuff that I never use and a Recto channel 2 instead of the Mark I.
That would be the shaz-bot!!!

 

[DrChaos]

If I could design my perfect amp from boogie, i'd just excise ch 2 of my Mark v and replace it with an electra dyne blue channel.

CH 1 as normal
CH 2 as Electra dyne lo gain
CH 3 as normal.

That would be perfect.

 

[snorkel54]

I want a 2c+ reissue

 

[danyeo1]

So when is the Royal Atlantic getting discontinued?

 

[Heritage Softail]

I want a 2c+ reissue

This.

Do it right. Not the near miss like on the MKV. If it were possible to have only a three channel amp...

Clean and gain out of the MKIIC and the Rectifier. Glorious! Killer leads and thunderous crushing riffs.

And forget ever trying to sound like a Marshall. Be the evil twin and embrace it.

 

[ryjan]

I want a 2c+ reissue

And forget ever trying to sound like a Marshall. Be the evil twin and embrace it.

Definitely!
The Marshall chasing is getting old.

I'd also like Boogie to add some stereo powered heads like the VH4S. Could you imagine a Roadster or a Mark V with a stereo fx return and two power amp sections?
The Mark could be sold in three configurations:
Mono Simul-class like the current amp.
Class a/b stereo with 4 6L6's (two per channel @50watts per side or 100watts bridged mono).
And the "Colosseum" model with basically a 2:90 for the power section with 8 tubes and the option of mixing 6L6's and EL34's.

The Rectifier stereo amps could be available as a 4 tube, 50watts per side stereo 100watts bridged mono or a 200 watt beast with a 2:100 as the power section.

 

[danyeo1]

I want a 2c+ reissue

And forget ever trying to sound like a Marshall. Be the evil twin and embrace it.

Definitely!
The Marshall chasing is getting old.

I'd also like Boogie to add some stereo powered heads like the VH4S. Could you imagine a Roadster or a Mark V with a stereo fx return and two power amp sections?
The Mark could be sold in three configurations:
Mono Simul-class like the current amp.
Class a/b stereo with 4 6L6's (two per channel @50watts per side or 100watts bridged mono).
And the "Colosseum" model with basically a 2:90 for the power section with 8 tubes and the option of mixing 6L6's and EL34's.

The Rectifier stereo amps could be available as a 4 tube, 50watts per side stereo 100watts bridged mono or a 200 watt beast with a 2:100 as the power section.

And the Stiletto's, Electra Dyne, and Royal Atlantic are turning out to be failures as far as popularity. The resale on those amps is horrid and there's just way to much competition in the "Marshall" tone war. There's just soo many amps out there that do the Marshall thing better than what Mesa can dial up. And I think the Ed and Royal are decent sounding amps. But when you look at the price and what you get, compare it to the competition then they don't look so good.

 

[Monsta-Tone]

Clean and gain out of the MKIIC and the Rectifier. Glorious! Killer leads and thunderous crushing riffs.

I'd like this!

 

[YellowJacket]

And the Stiletto's, Electra Dyne, and Royal Atlantic are turning out to be failures as far as popularity. The resale on those amps is horrid and there's just way to much competition in the "Marshall" tone war. There's just soo many amps out there that do the Marshall thing better than what Mesa can dial up. And I think the Ed and Royal are decent sounding amps. But when you look at the price and what you get, compare it to the competition then they don't look so good.

I don't think there is any problem with Mesa trying new things. The Mark series amps got the company a lot of recognition and sales but they decided to develop the Recto rather than sticking what they did best. Randall Smith has gone on record stating that the Recto is not the sort of amp Mesa would make. The fact that they built an amp that was based off of an amp (SLO) that was based off an amp (Peavey5150) that was was based off of a modded JCM800 with a cold clipping circuit means that they were trying something new that may or may not have worked. It just happened to have caught on and now the company is known BECAUSE of it.

I think the Stilettos, Heartbreaker, Electra Dyne, and Royal Atlantic all are great pieces of gear in their own right and they aren't somehow inferior to other amps that do a similar thing. I happen to think the Electra Dyne is an astounding piece of equipment in terms of tone and responsiveness and most people who hear it vastly prefer it to my Recto. Shared EQ aside, I have yet to play another production amp that is as musical and responsive as the 'Dyne is.
I don't believe that Mesa's intention is to chase Marshall tone, at least not since the Stilettos. The Electra Dyne and Royal Atlantic heads are unique flavours that are inspired by British high gain (I'm sure Orange is an inspiration as well as Marshall) but that are then tempered with boogie sensibility. i.e. they have their own unique voices that would not be mistaken for something else.

In the case of sales, it is not necessarily a competition problem as much as it most likely is about brand recognition. For instance, you don't expect McDonalds to start serving gourmet cakes. Nobody would want to spend $60 on a cake from McDonalds, right? Also, you don't order double cheeseburgers from Starbucks. I think the biggest problem with these amplifiers is that the people who would be interested in buying them would never plug a patch cable into something that said 'mesa' on it.
Anyhow, I'm rambling. I personally hope Mesa keeps on trying new things because for all the disappointment and complaints, there just happens to be guitarists who are looking for a special sound and one of these 'odd duck' amps just happens to fit the player's need perfectly. It is what happened with me and I'm **** glad they made the Electra Dyne. If they hadn't, I'd still be bleeding money chasing for 'that' sound I heard in my head but could find nowhere at all.

 

[jdurso]

+1 on what YellowJacket stated.

I've tried MANY amps, have owned almost every Mesa they've produced, gigged with a few Marshalls and have chased the grail tone for many years... it wasn't until i plugged into the ED that I found what I was looking for. To be honest, for a very long time I wouldn;t even plug into an ED or Stiletto because I was a "Mesa" guy not a "Marshall" guy so the idea of venturing into British inspired waters was almost taboo. Then I "grew up", branched out and found the ED was the perfect blend of feel, tone and usability for me. From my perspective what Mesa did wrong was label the ED or RA british inspired amps whether they were or not because when people hear the term British as an adjective for the tone they immediately think Marshall or VOX (and in some cases Orange). That there can turn off crowds of Marshall/VOX guys because the amp is a Mesa and the Mesa guys that think the amp is going to sound like a Masrhall, where in actuality it sounds more like the love child of the Maverick, Lonestar and Mark IV IMO... point being the ED (and RA by proxy) really do have their own tone thats not quite anything. The fact that the marketing targeted a certain crowd to me is more the downfall of the ED rather than them just pushing the ED or RA as a amp/tone/sound all its own.

 

[RR]

...
Anyhow, I'm rambling. ...

... keep rambling! Great discussion on MESA amps and its evolution.

 

[danyeo1]

And the Stiletto's, Electra Dyne, and Royal Atlantic are turning out to be failures as far as popularity. The resale on those amps is horrid and there's just way to much competition in the "Marshall" tone war. There's just soo many amps out there that do the Marshall thing better than what Mesa can dial up. And I think the Ed and Royal are decent sounding amps. But when you look at the price and what you get, compare it to the competition then they don't look so good.

I don't think there is any problem with Mesa trying new things. The Mark series amps got the company a lot of recognition and sales but they decided to develop the Recto rather than sticking what they did best. Randall Smith has gone on record stating that the Recto is not the sort of amp Mesa would make. The fact that they built an amp that was based off of an amp (SLO) that was based off an amp (Peavey5150) that was was based off of a modded JCM800 with a cold clipping circuit means that they were trying something new that may or may not have worked. It just happened to have caught on and now the company is known BECAUSE of it.

I think the Stilettos, Heartbreaker, Electra Dyne, and Royal Atlantic all are great pieces of gear in their own right and they aren't somehow inferior to other amps that do a similar thing. I happen to think the Electra Dyne is an astounding piece of equipment in terms of tone and responsiveness and most people who hear it vastly prefer it to my Recto. Shared EQ aside, I have yet to play another production amp that is as musical and responsive as the 'Dyne is.
I don't believe that Mesa's intention is to chase Marshall tone, at least not since the Stilettos. The Electra Dyne and Royal Atlantic heads are unique flavours that are inspired by British high gain (I'm sure Orange is an inspiration as well as Marshall) but that are then tempered with boogie sensibility. i.e. they have their own unique voices that would not be mistaken for something else.

In the case of sales, it is not necessarily a competition problem as much as it most likely is about brand recognition. For instance, you don't expect McDonalds to start serving gourmet cakes. Nobody would want to spend $60 on a cake from McDonalds, right? Also, you don't order double cheeseburgers from Starbucks. I think the biggest problem with these amplifiers is that the people who would be interested in buying them would never plug a patch cable into something that said 'mesa' on it.
Anyhow, I'm rambling. I personally hope Mesa keeps on trying new things because for all the disappointment and complaints, there just happens to be guitarists who are looking for a special sound and one of these 'odd duck' amps just happens to fit the player's need perfectly. It is what happened with me and I'm **** glad they made the Electra Dyne. If they hadn't, I'd still be bleeding money chasing for 'that' sound I heard in my head but could find nowhere at all.

I think the Ed and Royal sound good, but they have not caught on and you can't give them away on the used market. The only Mesa amps in demand are Mark series and Recto's.

 

[Heritage Softail]

I love Mesa but agree with Danny. Mesa has lost some identity lately. Lots of new amps that pretty much flopped. The MKV was a sad amp for me. I bought the hype and it just did not deliver. And having to take a serious loss on it since there are so man on the used market, just made it worse.

I still have my MKIIC and Recto, and they are great... The best amps in a while. Of course the MKIV smokes so many other amps too.

I hope Mesa comes out with a great amp. Right now, I just bought a Rhodes Gemini, and it covers a Mark and Recto pretty well, with higher gain. It is what I kept hoping Mesa would come out with.

With all the people buying and restoring old Mark series amps, just imagine how they would sell if they came out with a real MKIIC.

 

[danyeo1]

I love Mesa but agree with Danny. Mesa has lost some identity lately. Lots of new amps that pretty much flopped. The MKV was a sad amp for me. I bought the hype and it just did not deliver. And having to take a serious loss on it since there are so man on the used market, just made it worse.

I still have my MKIIC and Recto, and they are great... The best amps in a while. Of course the MKIV smokes so many other amps too.

I hope Mesa comes out with a great amp. Right now, I just bought a Rhodes Gemini, and it covers a Mark and Recto pretty well, with higher gain. It is what I kept hoping Mesa would come out with.

With all the people buying and restoring old Mark series amps, just imagine how they would sell if they came out with a real MKIIC.

Much? I think all of them have flopped except the Mark V, only because Petrucci talks it up and his Dream Theater fans buy it. I owned one for 1 month when it first came out. Played with a band and I got destroyed in the band mix with it, sold it soon after. If you're the only guitar player in a band with a Mark V you will be ok but play with another guy with a JCM800 and you will not be heard in the mix. I've dabbled with Cameron and Fortin modded Marshalls and they slaughtered the Mark V for high gain. You go back and plug into a IIC+ or a Mark III Coliseum and you wonder, " Mesa, what the hell happened" ?