I think from a marketing standpoint they thought naming it the same as the previous marks would create hype, OMG Mark 1, IIC+ and IV all in 1 + more channels for just $2k?! It's like why not since all the others are discontinued, minus the 1. IMO he should have named all the modes anything else other than the previous mark series titles. Then people wouldn't try to A/B the amps directly and say X is better than Y
Boogie MKV: To be - or not to be?
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scott7d
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It doesn't bother me much if the modes are not identical to their ancestors, because regardless, I love how they sound.
I hear mixed opinions on how close the amp comes to the others, but all in all, I think it has enough features to be it's "own" Mark series amp. I haven't heard much of the other Mark series amps to compare and dime in on that subject.
I hear mixed opinions on how close the amp comes to the others, but all in all, I think it has enough features to be it's "own" Mark series amp. I haven't heard much of the other Mark series amps to compare and dime in on that subject.
4406cuda
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theroan
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Also considering it has 5 other brand new tones I don't see reason why it shouldn't be called the V.
ryjan
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Imo, everyone who a/b this amp to the older ones are missing the boat. The triaxis is the same damn amp but boogie was smart enough to not label ld2 yellow "IIC+" they elude to the IIC and IV "ish" kind of tone. Thats how I view the V. IIC+ mode has the same overall feel and dynamic as the origional IIC+ and uses similar curcuitry but its a different amp so there will always be a slight deviation from the older amps. I hate to use the label "cork sniffer" but if the shoe fits, right.
gibson5413
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theroan said:
This
Nermel
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gibson5413 said:
^^^ what does "this" mean
theroan
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LOL
Now with the EL's were you using them a lot of whith Channel 3?
Now with the EL's were you using them a lot of whith Channel 3?
to answer the original question, its the Mark V cause its the next in the series of amps. Its like alot of products, version 1 version 2 version 3.. so on. this is version 5 revision 0, and its still a mark amp even though its based on 3 of the most coveted mark sounds, so calling anything else would seem odd. The mark series has a reputation that they want to associate with the new amp, and by putting the old names to the old circuits it gets more people who were on the fence to buy, (or not) since now they can get something very close to the older amp that they might have been wanting.
Regading soldanos being based on the SLP circuit and being more forgiving, i am not sure but i dont think thats true. marshall plexis had little gain, until cranked and every mistake you make is pretty out there, they don't cover up or forgive.
its a not so simple question of whether or not to keep an amp, its "do i like it?" and that changes day to day with most all amps. but good luck finding the tones you need.
Regading soldanos being based on the SLP circuit and being more forgiving, i am not sure but i dont think thats true. marshall plexis had little gain, until cranked and every mistake you make is pretty out there, they don't cover up or forgive.
its a not so simple question of whether or not to keep an amp, its "do i like it?" and that changes day to day with most all amps. but good luck finding the tones you need.
lesterpaul
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I want to make it clear my shootout isnt there to shoot down the V..I am a happy owner of vintage C's and a brand new V-we are trying to give a credible A/B ..its not meant to "diss" Mesa..(it "disses" some opinions, if anything)I thought it would be cool to offer an unbiased report/the C+'s are the holy grail to many, and if anything our shootout shows that it does come close-hope you dont see it as sniffin'..btw, shootout,pt. 2 on Tuesday 8)ryjan said:
phyrexia
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Randall would never fire himself. 
I think it comes down to if you do not like it dont use it.
If the quality of the amp comes down to what they name it we have some serious trouble.
I believe calling it a Mark 5 is warranted or are we going to get in to a naming war with the previous Marks after all isn't the Mark 4 based on the C+ with extra or separate controls for each channel expanded from the Mark 3 which has identical controls except for the extra Rhythm pull swich and of course the extra rhythm channel.
If the quality of the amp comes down to what they name it we have some serious trouble.
I believe calling it a Mark 5 is warranted or are we going to get in to a naming war with the previous Marks after all isn't the Mark 4 based on the C+ with extra or separate controls for each channel expanded from the Mark 3 which has identical controls except for the extra Rhythm pull swich and of course the extra rhythm channel.
Nermel
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THere's a few II C+'s for sale in the boogie classifieds...hop on on of those
gaindeli,
sorry wasnt questioning if slos were based on plexis.. just saying that plexis (an prob SLO) are not forgiving amps, that is it displays ****** technique quite well (which from what i've read the mark's do the same) now if you meant forgiving like, after you yell at it.. i have no idea, or forgiving as for tube swapping again couldn't tell ya.. tone is subjective and elusive damn records for using many amps and extra equipment making it really hard to get that tone live.. (except for andy timmons.. he's good at that hhmmm)
sorry wasnt questioning if slos were based on plexis.. just saying that plexis (an prob SLO) are not forgiving amps, that is it displays ****** technique quite well (which from what i've read the mark's do the same) now if you meant forgiving like, after you yell at it.. i have no idea, or forgiving as for tube swapping again couldn't tell ya.. tone is subjective and elusive damn records for using many amps and extra equipment making it really hard to get that tone live.. (except for andy timmons.. he's good at that hhmmm)
