which is closer to an original c+

[boogieslayer]

which is closer in sound to an original c+ a red stripe mark III or a mark II with c+ mod

 

[silentrage]

They're all close
The black dot / no stripe (and I think some early purple) have the 105 tranny.

The red stripe has the IIC+ preamp section

The blue stripe has the IIC+ power section

EVERYONE thinks THEIR III is the closest to the IIC+, hehe.

 

[JimAnsell]

They're all close


The red stripe has the IIC+ preamp section

The blue stripe has the IIC+ power section

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has this ever been examined more thuroughly?
i know that one guy posted those descriptions on his website so many years ago, and it is just wildly thrown around as a fact.
do we have any proof of all this?

 

[boogieslayer]

oops it should read
which is closer in sound to an original c+ a red stripe mark III or a mark III with c+ mod

the last time i talked to mike b he said the red stripe mark III is the closest to the c+ out of all the III's in sound..

how much difference is their between the III red strip and the legendary 105 tranny in the early no dot/black II's?

 

[Shep]

a mk II with a c+ mod is a C+??

 

[kmanick]

I believe it.
teh red stripe I just sold (to fund my IV) sounded amazing.

 

[JOEY B.]

the last time i talked to mike b he said the red stripe mark III is the closest to the c+ out of all the III's in sound

If you are talking about the lead channel, I would agree. Sound includes tone and response. The 105 C+ gives a dynamic response that is only rivaled by the Coliseum Mark III. I have owned a red and blue stripe, FWIW.

 

[JOEY B.]

Joey if the 105 C+ gives a dynamic response that is only rivaled by the Coliseum Mark III, what is the dynamic response like on Mike's IIC+ Coliseum?!

The Coliseum amps can be brutal in the clean channel, wheather it is a MkII or III. With EV speakers, the word "painful" comes to mind, if the room is small. :shock:

 

[lesterpaul]

Joey if the 105 C+ gives a dynamic response that is only rivaled by the Coliseum Mark III, what is the dynamic response like on Mike's IIC+ Coliseum?!

The Coliseum amps can be brutal in the clean channel, wheather it is a MkII or III. With EV speakers, the word "painful" comes to mind, if the room is small. :shock:

I'll take it one step further-wife and kids were gone...too many beers.--a few of the neighborhood players dropped in,and I felt it was my duty to do a little Hendrix on the Strat-complete with feedback,down on my knees,shakin' the fool out of the Strat a la Jimi...couldnt hear anything but SWOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHHH the next morn..and morn after that....the master was on (gulp) 5..Coli plus EV's equals tinnitus(sp??)...its ok now,but the next day I was playing my old Martin, and I heard the upper octave harmonic on every note!Thought my **** guitar was messed up, then realized it was my **** ears..!dumbass me..but it was a good night

 

[boogieslayer]

nice lester :mrgreen:

 

[boogiemon]

How does one identify a "105" transformer? i want to check out my MIII when it gets back from the shop. (it's getting a cap job/checkup by "Mike" the tech!) i can't wait to hear it. I thought it sounded pretty good before i took it in...

 

[av8or3]

How does one identify a "105" transformer? i want to check out my MIII when it gets back from the shop. (it's getting a cap job/checkup by "Mike" the tech!) i can't wait to hear it. I thought it sounded pretty good before i took it in...

It will be the the first part of the part number stamped on the transformer cover. Just lay it down on its side (or top), shine a flashlight in there and read the numbers stamped in to the transformer.
Jim

 

[boogiemon]

cool. thnx,

How does one identify a "105" transformer? i want to check out my MIII when it gets back from the shop. (it's getting a cap job/checkup by "Mike" the tech!) i can't wait to hear it. I thought it sounded pretty good before i took it in...

It will be the the first part of the part number stamped on the transformer cover. Just lay it down on its side (or top), shine a flashlight in there and read the numbers stamped in to the transformer.
Jim

 

[boogiemon]

cool. thnx. i get my MIII back on Tues so i'll check it out. Anybody know why these '105' xformers are supposed to be good? just curious.

It looks like this:

 

[lesterpaul]

http://www.theboogiearchives.com/mark_IIc+.html
El's website should help...

 

[igfraso]

oops it should read
which is closer in sound to an original c+ a red stripe mark III or a mark III with c+ mod

the last time i talked to mike b he said the red stripe mark III is the closest to the c+ out of all the III's in sound..

how much difference is their between the III red strip and the legendary 105 tranny in the early no dot/black II's?

Mike Bendinelli told me that the red stripe (in first place) and the green stripe (in second place) are the most similar to the IIC+. He also said that the blue stripe is the most different one.