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jjb said:
Van den Hul.

Those are supposed to best out there according to the Lava site, but the price is pretty dear. Do you hear a big difference from other upper end cables or is it subtle?
 
Brewski said:
jjb said:
Van den Hul.

Those are supposed to best out there according to the Lava site, but the price is pretty dear. Do you hear a big difference from other upper end cables or is it subtle?

It's subtle imo.
 
All MONSTER PRO cables (2) 21 footers (6) shorties for pedalboard and (1) speaker cable for years and replaced one 21 footer for free last year.

Hype or not, they work really well for me ! Plus the lifetime replacement.

:wink:
 
We just started carrying Planet Waves. I really like the 'Circuit Breaker' cable, but it's a bit spendy and not very flexible.

I have some of the standard Planet Waves cables in our showroom for demos, they seem to react faster than my Horizon cables. Time will tell.
 
Monster Cable prior to amp head...

in the effects loop - Pro-Co

I used to always swear by Pro-Co, because there was a lifetime warranty at the big music store in the area... but I have Monster now.. so much better... I accommodate for x amount of signal loss before the amp.. but the loop is parallel... so Pro Co for the loop..

The Speaker Cable is thick as a tree trunk..
 
my thoughts about monster cable:

the monster cable that is supposed to be for a certain music type... such as monster acoustic cable, monster rock cable, monster bass cable, etc, is not only pointless, but worse in the long run.

Does it emphize and cut certain frequencies out, and claim it is better for ______ type of music?

:evil:

Bad!
 
How good is the PW pedal board kit? Is it better than George L's or the same? I currently use the gold plated boss cables that came with my BCB-60 pedalboard. Surely the PW or George L's will be better? I also use some long cables for the send/return, not sure the brand...
 
theaero said:
my thoughts about monster cable:

the monster cable that is supposed to be for a certain music type... such as monster acoustic cable, monster rock cable, monster bass cable, etc, is not only pointless, but worse in the long run.

Does it emphize and cut certain frequencies out, and claim it is better for ______ type of music?

:evil:

Bad!

Emphasize/cut certain frequencies? It's a wire. Period. It's just a wire.

If you have a VERY long cable run, you'll see some diminished bass and some diminished treble (due to capacitance, since the signal wire runs close to the ground in an unbalanced cable), but it's just wire.

I use 12 gauge for speaker wire, mostly because I have long runs and the heavier gauge shows less loss over a long run. Monster is good cable, but it is overpriced and you can get stuff just as good for a fraction of the cost.

For the rest of it, the most important thing is that it stands up to being hauled around and banged on. You can have crappy cable (ie, it crackles when you twist it because it was simply poorly made or someone wasn't paying attention when they put on the connectors or something) but if you ran a true blind A/B test with different instrument cables I seriously doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference.

If you think it will sound better, then it WILL sound better.
 
"MIT founder Bruce Brisson began designing audio cables in the 1970's after "hearing" the sonic problems inherent in typical audio cables of the day. In 1981 he licensed his "Bandwidth Balanced" technology to Monster Cable. Later he also licensed other phase correct or time-coherent designs to Monster, which have become some of Monster's most enduring and successful products. "

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From US Patent #6658119:
"Musicians of electrical instruments have long been aware that the audio qualities of their music depend in part on the total system comprising the instrument, the cable and the amplifier. Generally, within the range of audio frequencies produced by a particular electrical instrument, cable and amplifier system, there is a smaller range in which the sounds produced are "emphasized" or "noisy." The actual range depends on the length, materials and construction of the cable.

Graphic equalizers, which utilize active filters, may be used to compensate for this effect. Usually the compensation requires an amplification of the sounds at the lower and higher end of the relevant frequency range, with a gradual decrease in the amplification for each frequency range toward the center frequency which produces the familiar "V" on the graphic equalizer controls. Active filter compensation, however, can produce its own noise. Furthermore, a more evenly balanced signal expands the control choices afforded to the musician by a graphic equalizer. Because of the required compensation, such choices are usually limited in current standard systems. "
 
phaboo said:
theaero said:
my thoughts about monster cable:

the monster cable that is supposed to be for a certain music type... such as monster acoustic cable, monster rock cable, monster bass cable, etc, is not only pointless, but worse in the long run.

Does it emphize and cut certain frequencies out, and claim it is better for ______ type of music?

:evil:

Bad!

Emphasize/cut certain frequencies? It's a wire. Period. It's just a wire.

If you have a VERY long cable run, you'll see some diminished bass and some diminished treble (due to capacitance, since the signal wire runs close to the ground in an unbalanced cable), but it's just wire.

I use 12 gauge for speaker wire, mostly because I have long runs and the heavier gauge shows less loss over a long run. Monster is good cable, but it is overpriced and you can get stuff just as good for a fraction of the cost.

For the rest of it, the most important thing is that it stands up to being hauled around and banged on. You can have crappy cable (ie, it crackles when you twist it because it was simply poorly made or someone wasn't paying attention when they put on the connectors or something) but if you ran a true blind A/B test with different instrument cables I seriously doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference.

If you think it will sound better, then it WILL sound better.


I have ABed many cables to mogami gold stage and studio cables, as well as my 20' mogami platinum cable, and i have noticed a LOT of dynamic and sonic differences, in mogamis favour.
 
Since a week or two I am using planet waves, before I used yellowcable.
I don't hear much sound difference but when I moved the old plugs a little there was always noise, now I don't have that noise anymore.
 
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