Vertical cab

[Rkorn]

Hey.
I'm up for a 212 vertical cab, even if for the most part the horizontal is better.
A vertical being wider wouldn't it sound bigger and fuller on its side? It would make and angled horizontal XXL 212 horizontal cab right?
Who has this cab? Give me your suggestions...
I'm asking this because this cab is for home use. But on bigger stages it comes to the road too and maybe i could put it laying down on top of the rec 212 horizontal that i already have.

 

[evilsaint]

To me, vertical 2x12" Rectifer cabinet is a lot of better than horizontal.
You can hear a lot of better from vertical 2x12" cabinet.

Mark V can sit on vertical 2x12" cabinet nicely.

 

[golfnguitarz]

I have the 2x12 vertical recto and really like it. IMHO, you get a more realistic sound since the top speaker is angled up towards your ears. If you put a horizontal recto on the floor, you typically won't hear a lot of the treble since the speakers are aimed at your knees - unless you move pretty far away from the cab. These are just generalizations though.

 

[Rkorn]

I have the 2x12 vertical recto and really like it. IMHO, you get a more realistic sound since the top speaker is angled up towards your ears. If you put a horizontal recto on the floor, you typically won't hear a lot of the treble since the speakers are aimed at your knees - unless you move pretty far away from the cab. These are just generalizations though.

Yes, this is exactly what happens!
What i don't understand is why don't they make a regular vertical, and most of them are producing Slants only. Does this have anything to do with sound? If they took the 212 Vertical, made it regular instead of slant they could put feet on both sides and it could be Horizontal (a XXL version maybe) and Vertical...

 

[golfnguitarz]

I have the 2x12 vertical recto and really like it. IMHO, you get a more realistic sound since the top speaker is angled up towards your ears. If you put a horizontal recto on the floor, you typically won't hear a lot of the treble since the speakers are aimed at your knees - unless you move pretty far away from the cab. These are just generalizations though.

Yes, this is exactly what happens!
What i don't understand is why don't they make a regular vertical, and most of them are producing Slants only. Does this have anything to do with sound? If they took the 212 Vertical, made it regular instead of slant they could put feet on both sides and it could be Horizontal (a XXL version maybe) and Vertical...

I think you might be able to add feet to a horizontal recto - seems like it would be easy. It would be better but the top speaker still wouldn't be angled up. The one drawback of the 2x12 would be for playing on small stages in smaller venues which is mostly what I did back in the day. It's a pretty big cab for that situation (but looks damn good with the head on top!!). It sounds killer though.

 

[screamingdaisy]

What i don't understand is why don't they make a regular vertical, and most of them are producing Slants only. Does this have anything to do with sound? If they took the 212 Vertical, made it regular instead of slant they could put feet on both sides and it could be Horizontal (a XXL version maybe) and Vertical...

A straight vertical cab would be harder to hear than a horizontal cab.

And before you guys say I'm off my rocker, it's due to the coupling effect. When two or more speakers couple together it changes the radiation pattern of sound.

If you stack speakers on top of each other vertically it spreads the sound out horizontally. This is why in a home theatre system the left and right channels are stacked vertically and placed on pedestals to get them at head level... it spreads the sound out across the couch so that all the listeners can hear it.

If you stack speakers beside each other horizontally it spreads the sound out vertically. This is why in a home theatre system the center speaker is horizontal... it's usually placed above the TV, so having it horizontal helps spread the sound downwards to the dude sitting on his couch.

 

[Rkorn]

Screamingdaisy: seems like i learn something new everyday.

Still, installing some feet on the side of a vert or the horizontal is not the problem.

If the vertical was not slant, we could have an XXL horizontal. i mean... We already do, but the speakers point in different directions. Which is probably not a problem because the cab e bigger, and probably has each speaker functioning better since they have more space and air to move.
Is this though correct?? Or maybe i'm drifting a bit... I'm just trying to image a way to use 2 212s on stage, 1 vertical and one horizontal... maybe one on top of each other...?? And believe me, having a rig that looks like .!. is not that bad of an idea.

 

[Rkorn]

Well, today i played an Orange cab and was really impressed!
Too bad the 212 doesn't fit the mark V because the amp doesn't have 16 ohms out...

Or,
What would happen if I got the 212 orange and connected the 16ohm of cab to 8 ohm of the amp???
It's a safe mismatch like the manual says, but would the amp work ok? would i get good volume? or would the cab be working under powered?