Using a Multi Band E with a Dual Recto

[sean106ESP]

Hey everyone. Curious if any one has used a multi band Eq pedal in front of their rectos or in the loop? Curious if it will be helpful in tone shaping ala the Mark graphic eq's? Thanks!

 

[Blaklynx]

Are you talking about a simple EQ like a MXR 10band or Boss GE7? If so, heaps of people have used them. I use two, one out front and one in the loop.

As for settings, the common freq to cut is around 200Hz (or freq closest to 200Hz). This clears the amp's muddiness a little. As for all the other sliders, play with your amps tone controls and the EQ pedal. An EQ out front behaves differently to one in the loop. Out front you're tone shaping the guitar signal prior to the preamp. In the loop you're tone shaping the overall signal (amp+guitar). These are both two different things.


If you search the forum, there's plenty of info about using EQ pedals. Here's something further to think about that many may not realise: Read my post (same username as the one used here) http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/complete-gear-noob-need-help-107070-2.html

 

[sean106ESP]

Are you talking about a simple EQ like a MXR 10band or Boss GE7? If so, heaps of people have used them. I use two, one out front and one in the loop.

As for settings, the common freq to cut is around 200Hz (or freq closest to 200Hz). This clears the amp's muddiness a little. As for all the other sliders, play with your amps tone controls and the EQ pedal. An EQ out front behaves differently to one in the loop. Out front you're tone shaping the guitar signal prior to the preamp. In the loop you're tone shaping the overall signal (amp+guitar). These are both two different things.


If you search the forum, there's plenty of info about using EQ pedals. Here's something further to think about that many may not realise: Read my post (same username as the one used here) http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/complete-gear-noob-need-help-107070-2.html

Hey thanks. Yeah I was thinking of trying one of those MXR 6 or 10 band Eq;s. I might try one out and see how goes. I basically want to clean up the dirty tones beyond what the general eq does. I use a MXR classic OD in the front and it does help clean and compress a little but want to shape it some more. Thanks again!

 

[KiwiJoe]

Hey everyone. Curious if any one has used a multi band Eq pedal in front of their rectos or in the loop? Curious if it will be helpful in tone shaping ala the Mark graphic eq's? Thanks!

What the other guy said is pretty much on. If you want the EQ to act like the EQs in the Mark amps, then put it in the loop because, if I'm not mistaken, that's where those EQs are in those circuits - after the pre-amp. I've been playing around with a GE-7 and found it worked best for me in the loop.

That said, I've dumped the GE-7 and gone with the Fromel Shape. I know a lot of people use the GE-7 with and without the Allums mod, but the Fromel is just a superior product; it's virtually hiss free which is a big problem I had with the GE-7. It's a parametric, but I really think parametrics are more applicable. It's got true by-pass and buffered by-pass which is really incredible even when the EQ isn't engaged.

 

[Blaklynx]

A para EQ is really good to zero in on frequencies. I use one but it's not a pedal. It's this unit and works good (for guitar) in the loop http://www.presonus.com/products/EQ3B I wouldn't use it as part of a DAW system as there's much better units available for recording applications. For use in an amps loop, I can't complain.

I'd like to get one of these http://www.empresseffects.com/paraeq.html

 

[KiwiJoe]

A para EQ is really good to zero in on frequencies. I use one but it's not a pedal. It's this unit and works good (for guitar) in the loop http://www.presonus.com/products/EQ3B I wouldn't use it as part of a DAW system as there's much better units available for recording applications. For use in an amps loop, I can't complain.

I'd like to get one of these http://www.empresseffects.com/paraeq.html

Yeah, the more I think about it, a parametric makes so much more sense than a graphic for most guitar applications. That Presonus looks really nice, and since I'm not in the studio or anything like that, I try to find a balance between quality and affordability and simplicity of use as a small-time, local gigging weekend warrior.

That Empress pedal was on my short list which actually was narrowed down to it and the Fromel. I couldn't find a bad thing said about either pedal after a good bit of research and forum crawling, and the Fromel won out for me on price and simplicity. The Empress seemed to be a bit more than what I need. Here's a demo vid of the Fromel. I think I'm going to be in honeymoon mode for quite a while. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLkcrBEF-0

I see you're in Melbourne. I ordered my Fromel through a place called Deluxe Guitars.Ever heard of them or dealt with them? They seem to carry all the "boo-teek" brands including Empress.

 

[Blaklynx]

I live in Melbourne. Been to Deluxe Guitars a couple of times but I find they have overpriced pedals. I usually buy mine from the US unless I can get a second hand one here.... and usually it's only a little more expensive to buy new rather than second hand! Prices in this country are bloody ridiculous most of the time.

I'll check the clip when I have further time.

 

[KiwiJoe]

Prices in NZ are ridiculous as well. I try to order direct from the US when I can, too, but Fromel said he was out of stock and didn't know when he'd be doing another run of production. It would have only saved me about $20 anyway with the difference in shipping, so I just ordered it from Deluxe.