Unwanted feedback coming from my Recto

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volatileNoise said:
bermuda_ said:
Also I found that on my recto, the channel 2 modern mode is louder in volume than channel 3 modern mode on the amp?

Hmmm, with exact same gain and master volume levels??? (and similar tone levels?)


maybe A... you actually DO have an issue with ch3

or B...

Heritage Softail said:
I think all these posts are just a way to get attention.

or C...

you really need to sell this amp, and buy a solid state amp! :lol:

where is that 'beating a dead horse' emoticon anyway...
 
b0nkersx said:
I remember reading that you also play in drop A tuning with below average pickups. No wonder your sound is muddy. Drop A? Not only will drop A sound muddy on any amplifier, but it'll sound god-awful on an amplifier that isn't incredibly tight to begin with.

Complete and utter poppycock.

Bermuda, how low have you ever had your bass control on the amp? Have you tried turning it all the way down?

From the sounds of it, maybe your amp is broken. Bad pots or something that is really messing up your tone. Id take it to a tech, have him look over and see whats up. If he says there is nothing wrong with it, see if he wouldnt mind setting the amp up there in the store, putting the settings to how hed like them and just demo the amp. Not for himself, but for you. You may learn something.

The biggest thing about amps, is that you go with your ears, not your eyes and nut by numbers.

Lots of people here have their settings and preference on what they play and what they like. Thats why you run into so many posts like "Gain shouldnt need to go over 1:00." "Turn your presence off." and so on and so on.

If I was there with you, id get another guitar, plug it in, turn everything to 12:00 except the volume. Presence, treble, mids, bass, gain, all at 12:00. Need more gain, turn up the gain, who cares if its at 3:00, or all the way, go until it sounds good, boost the amp if you need even more.

Does it sound bassy and too woofy. Turn the bass down, maybe all the way, go until it sounds good.

Maybe it sounds to screeching and irritating, turn down the treble or presence.

Dont follow or restrict yourselves to numbers, go by ear.
 
Jerrick said:
Complete and utter poppycock.

It's not if you're an inexperienced guitar player with a guitar not set up for drop A with bad pickups. It was a reply to the OP, not a generalized statement to you or anybody else. If you have followed bermuda you would know that this is really the only realistic assumption you can make. I know you haven't followed him because you're trying to help him by telling him things that people have told him multiple times, and I would bet my bottom dollar that his guitar isn't setup for drop A.
 
volatileNoise said:
where is that 'beating a dead horse' emoticon anyway...


I gotcha covered.


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Well if that amp 'blows' I'll sure there are plenty of people here willing to take it off your hands...myself included.
 
bermuda_ said:
I recently tuned my guitar back up to C Standard tuning, to cover some Akercocke songs, and I experienced the same result.

Also my brother played my amp last night, and he's a good guitarist and even he said the amp blows, so inexperience doesn't fully contribute to the cause of the problem, I truly do believe that there is a problem with my amp, there is no other explanation I can think of, I highly doubt that Recto's in general are supposed to sound like as if a blanket has been put over them.


If you think your amp is broken take it to a repair place!!!!!!!! No one on here is going to be able to repair your amp.
 
Bermuda,

Answer me these questions....in as much detail as possible. It's time to get this sorted out for you, cause this is REALLY getting kind of ridiculous.

First off...it's been months now...I myself, and MANY others have asked you to post a clip on youtube...nothing fancy...just sit infront of a camera and play a few chords...though the quality won't be great, it will get SOME idea through to us.

You want help, but you won't go through a simple step to get us the information we need. Do you actually want to get this solved, or keeping posting the same questions over and over? I hate to be like this, but it is just immature. You're wasting our time and yours.

1. What tunings are you playing in? String Gauge for corresponding tuning? How old are the strings?

2. What guitar? Have you tried a different guitar?

2. What pickups are you using?

3. Guitar straight in? Any pedals? What cables?

4. What guitar cab are you using? What speakers?

5. What tubes are in the amp? How old are they? Since you bought the amp used, maybe the tubes are well used and ready to be changed?

5. If you think your amp is so broken, why not take it to a tech?

Part of my sympathizes with you...I remember having a hard time with my first 3 channel rectifier too, but there are ways around it if you can help us help you. In all honesty...my biggest problem was that the amp was too good for me. I just wasn't an experienced enough player...hard to admit, but it's true...I wasn't bad by any means, but practice has improved my technique A LOT.

The Recto is an awesome amp...I LOVE my Roadster, and on a side note, can make any recto, unboosted, just fly for metal riffs. But, the amps magic has a draw back....

GARBAGE IN------>GARBAGE OUT! Simple, but ohhh so true with this amp.
 
ibanez4life SZ! said:
Bermuda,

Answer me these questions....in as much detail as possible. It's time to get this sorted out for you, cause this is REALLY getting kind of ridiculous.

First off...it's been months now...I myself, and MANY others have asked you to post a clip on youtube...nothing fancy...just sit infront of a camera and play a few chords...though the quality won't be great, it will get SOME idea through to us.

You want help, but you won't go through a simple step to get us the information we need. Do you actually want to get this solved, or keeping posting the same questions over and over? I hate to be like this, but it is just immature. You're wasting our time and yours.

1. What tunings are you playing in? String Gauge for corresponding tuning? How old are the strings?

2. What guitar? Have you tried a different guitar?

2. What pickups are you using?

3. Guitar straight in? Any pedals? What cables?

4. What guitar cab are you using? What speakers?

5. If you think your amp is so broken, why not take it to a tech?

Part of my sympathizes with you...I remember having a hard time with my first 3 channel rectifier too, but there are ways around it if you can help us help you. In all honesty...my biggest problem was that the amp was too good for me. I just wasn't an experienced enough player...hard to admit, but it's true...I wasn't bad by any means, but practice has improved my technique A LOT.

The Recto is an awesome amp...I LOVE my Roadster, and on a side note, can make any recto, unboosted, just fly for metal riffs. But, the amps magic has a draw back....

GARBAGE IN------>GARBAGE OUT! Simple, but ohhh so true with this amp.

You are a very patient person. I must admit, I am ready to give this kid a Craftsman hat because he is a tool.... But you are right. If he does not post back in a responsble way to your post.... then give him the hat.. :lol: :lol:
 
"Unwanted feedback coming from my Recto"
I resemble that remark...
My wife just calls it GAS... :lol:

Sorry, I figured this thread needed a break.
 
The Recto I currently own is pre-owned, that's why I'm skeptical about how the amp sounds to my ears.
 
b0nkersx said:
Jerrick said:
Complete and utter poppycock.

It's not if you're an inexperienced guitar player with a guitar not set up for drop A with bad pickups. It was a reply to the OP, not a generalized statement to you or anybody else. If you have followed bermuda you would know that this is really the only realistic assumption you can make. I know you haven't followed him because you're trying to help him by telling him things that people have told him multiple times, and I would bet my bottom dollar that his guitar isn't setup for drop A.

Complete and utter poppycock, again.

First off, sure you quoted Bermuda, but they way you typed it still came across as drop A will sound horrible on any amp, specially if its a loose amp. You didnt really specify at all that Bermuda would sound bad in dropped A on any amp, you just said generally
Not only will drop A sound muddy on any amplifier, but it'll sound god-awful on an amplifier that isn't incredibly tight to begin with.


Secondly, I have been following Bermuda, since his first posts asking about his rectifier all the way up to now. I figured it would be a whole lot better to continue to try to help him throughout his issues then to start acting like im in middleschool, get annoyed, and just using Bermuda as the punchline of jokes and making him the target of put-downs and assumptions.

Im surprised a lot of you continue this in a negative way. You see that the thread is started by Bermuda, if you dont like it or dont have much input, just dont open the thread. Simple as that.

Me, I dont mind taking 2 minutes to write out a post trying to help him a bit.
 
Bermuda,

Go back to the end of page 2 of this thread, and answer all my questions in as much detail as you can. I can't help you till you give me all the info you can on your rig.

Eric
 
I'm for helping people out. I know I've needed help on things before.

If you are going to ask questions about your gear you really need to tell exactly what kind of gear you are using!!! Eric is right in asking what guitar do you have, what pickups are in it, what cables are you using? do you have your amp plugged into the speaker cab correctly even???? etc etc

There are a ton of factors that could be causing you problems.

I think Eric also hit the nail on the head when he said his first recto was too good for him. I had the same issue when I got my Single Recto over 10 years ago. If you aren't a good player yet and have just started playing you are going to have a very hard time getting a good sound out of any guitar or amp. I had a student one time complain about his guitar and he said if he had a nice guitar like mine he would sound better. He had a squire...i had an epiphone!!! lol I gave him my guitar and had him play his lesson on it and it sounded bad because he was a beginning player and was bad. Then I played his guitar and he got so confused because it sounded good! Bad playing will make a great amp sound bad.

If you want help then listen...it takes time for this stuff to come. No one starts out a guitar god. Finding good tone takes time especially if your ears are untrained. Your abilities just have to catch up with your aspirations.
 
Jerrick said:
b0nkersx said:
Jerrick said:
Complete and utter poppycock.

It's not if you're an inexperienced guitar player with a guitar not set up for drop A with bad pickups. It was a reply to the OP, not a generalized statement to you or anybody else. If you have followed bermuda you would know that this is really the only realistic assumption you can make. I know you haven't followed him because you're trying to help him by telling him things that people have told him multiple times, and I would bet my bottom dollar that his guitar isn't setup for drop A.

Complete and utter poppycock, again.

First off, sure you quoted Bermuda, but they way you typed it still came across as drop A will sound horrible on any amp, specially if its a loose amp. You didnt really specify at all that Bermuda would sound bad in dropped A on any amp, you just said generally
Not only will drop A sound muddy on any amplifier, but it'll sound god-awful on an amplifier that isn't incredibly tight to begin with.


You would think that replying to somebodies thread means that you're speaking to them. I operate under this assumption when I post. Whether or not you thought I was speaking in general doesn't matter, because I'm telling you that you read it wrong, so stop being pedantic. I hope you enjoy the poppycock as much as drop A sounds like garbage (hint: slight sarcasm, except now I'm saying drop A sounds like garbage 110% of the time just to bug you).

Jerrick said:
Im surprised a lot of you continue this in a negative way.

It's good for laughs.

Jerrick said:
You see that the thread is started by Bermuda, if you dont like it or dont have much input, just dont open the thread. Simple as that.

Just about everybody who has "continued this negatively" has given bermuda_ enough input to collectively write a small book, myself included.

Jerrick said:
Me, I dont mind taking 2 minutes to write out a post trying to help him a bit.

You mean take 2 minutes to tell him things that he has been told a dozen times to no satisfactory result? That horse has been dead for months, but many posters won't let anyone bury it; that includes me, but I enjoy watching this play out. It's better than TV.

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You would think that replying to somebodies thread means that you're speaking to them. I operate under this assumption when I post. Whether or not you thought I was speaking in general doesn't matter, because I'm telling you that you read it wrong, so stop being pedantic. I hope you enjoy the poppycock as much as drop A sounds like garbage (hint: slight sarcasm, except now I'm saying drop A sounds like garbage 110% of the time just to bug you).

Haha, all I was saying was that it can come off as just as general statement. Besides, we all know Dropped A sounds so much better than all the other tunings out there. lol

It's good for laughs.

Yeah, its not bad, the "Which knob do I move to change the tone?" question was horribly funny.

Just about everybody who has "continued this negatively" has given bermuda_ enough input to collectively write a small book, myself included.

Oh I know, ive read through them all, and posted a bit myself.

You mean take 2 minutes to tell him things that he has been told a dozen times to no satisfactory result? That horse has been dead for months, but many posters won't let anyone bury it; that includes me, but I enjoy watching this play out. It's better than TV.

Yep, exactly. Seeing this thread is annoying and dead, seeing the reactions like the horsebeating is also dead to me.

Though id rather read my city's musician section on craigslist. Thats my little soap opera. But I say since Bermuda hasnt posted in a while, we let it drop and enjoy the next few days or weeks of no questions.
 
I think I've said this to you before but go to the modern channel. Put every knob on there to 12oclock and hit a chord. If you dont like that sound or it doesnt roar at you its either not the amp for you or its broken
 
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