Tubes Sovtex6L6 or JJ6L6

[magiceye]

Hi Guys, I am newbie here.

I had my single recto (head) about a year and I always feel lack of gain.
Which tube do you recommend for adding gain?

Sovtex 6L6 or JJ 6L6?

Thank you for the input.

 

[rvschulz]

i think you are focusing on the wrong area ... you need to change your pre-amp tubes. go to www.dougstubes.com and get in contact with them.

 

[tunedown]

i think you are focusing on the wrong area ... you need to change your pre-amp tubes. go to www.dougstubes.com and get in contact with them.

Bump.

He's right. don't focus on the Power Tubes, you may be missing the big picture here.

 

[edward]

Well, yeah ...but's it's both, really. Maybe try out some preamp tubes which address only your lead channel, and then also get the "gainiest" power tubes you can.

I can also recommend Mike at KCA NOS tubes. He's very knowledgable, friendly, and really stands behind his stuff (and is a member and frequent contributor to TGP forum) ...no affiliation, just a satisfied (and repeat) customer.

Edward

 

[madryan]

Power tubes have nothing to do with your amps preamp gain which is what Recto's are all about. You might get output tubes that break up earlier but you're not going to be able to tell the difference unless you're running the master at ridiculous volumes.

If your Rectifier doesn't have enough gain then there's something wrong with it. I had a 12AT7 in V1 of my dual rec and it still had enough gain to do modern metal with ease. Also, try turning it up enough to drive the speakers.

IMO, I'd get some 9th gen. Chinese 12AX7's with something like a Tung Sol in V1 and leave your power tubes alone for now. Failing that, I had great luck with the TAD 6L6's in mine. I also liked the Svetlana Winged-C- EL-34's.

Best thing to do with a Dual Rec is to throw a TS-808 copy out front to rob the preamp of bass, and a MXR 10 band EQ in the loop to add it back. Tightens things up nicely and you'll have all the gain you ever needed.

BTW... I hated JJ tubes in my Dual Rec. (Sounded dead) Didn't care for Sovtek either. (Too fizzy and buzzy)

 

[tunedown]

Best thing to do with a Dual Rec is to throw a TS-808 copy out front to rob the preamp of bass, and a MXR 10 band EQ in the loop to add it back. Tightens things up nicely and you'll have all the gain you ever needed.

This sounds like a very "Mark series" philosophy, no? balancing the Pre-PI mix and the Post-PI EQ?

 

[clutch71]

Power tubes have nothing to do with your amps preamp gain which is what Recto's are all about. You might get output tubes that break up earlier but you're not going to be able to tell the difference unless you're running the master at ridiculous volumes.

If your Rectifier doesn't have enough gain then there's something wrong with it. I had a 12AT7 in V1 of my dual rec and it still had enough gain to do modern metal with ease. Also, try turning it up enough to drive the speakers.

+1 Had a grid resistor out and the gain dimed was still not up to a recto on noon.

IMO, I'd get some 9th gen. Chinese 12AX7's with something like a Tung Sol in V1 and leave your power tubes alone for now. Failing that, I had great luck with the TAD 6L6's in mine. I also liked the Svetlana Winged-C- EL-34's.

Use these in a Marshall and when I find a SR I'll throw a set in them as well.

Best thing to do with a Dual Rec is to throw a TS-808 copy out front to rob the preamp of bass, and a MXR 10 band EQ in the loop to add it back. Tightens things up nicely and you'll have all the gain you ever needed.

Run a TS808 and love it.

BTW... I hated JJ tubes in my Dual Rec. (Sounded dead) Didn't care for Sovtek either. (Too fizzy and buzzy)

Only area I slightly differ. I liked the JJ 6L6's and JJEL34's (In Marshall never tried in DR) and like a balance JJecc83 in the PI. I didn't like Sovetek 5881 WXT's which I think are similar if not the same as the Mesa 6L6. You hear different things about rebranding.

 

[magiceye]

If your Rectifier doesn't have enough gain then there's something wrong with it. I had a 12AT7 in V1 of my dual rec and it still had enough gain to do modern metal with ease. Also, try turning it up enough to drive the speakers.

Thank's guys for the info. Is it ok if I change V1 only? Or mush change all of them V1 to V5?

 

[madryan]

You can change Preamp tubes at will. One or all it doesn't matter. You're best bet is to have a balanced 12AX7 or 12AT7 in the PI spot which is V5 on a dual rec I believe. It's been a while since I've owned one.