Tone differences between rectifier tubes?

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Does anyone know or have tried back to back comparisons of different rectifer tubes? My amp currently has EH 5U4GB small bottles in it. Would the big coke bottle 5U4's sound any different? What about the GZ34 rectifier tubes? (I have heard you may have to up the fuse rating to run these and that sounds scary to me)

Thanks

Rich
 
The difference between rectifiers is not tonal. It's in the amp's feel and attack.
A 5U4 should feel more spongy and have a softer attack than a GZ34.
 
The main difference between NOS and curent production rectifier tubes is:

Almost everyone agrees that NOS last MUCH longer than current production tubes. I have never heard a difference, but I run NOS for the durability.
 
My Vibrolux Reverb has a very old Mullard GZ34 in it. It was in the amp when I bought it almost 20 years ago!
 
Don said:
The difference between rectifiers is not tonal. It's in the amp's feel and attack.
A 5U4 should feel more spongy and have a softer attack than a GZ34.
This is not entirely true, from my experience. Though I do appreciate you bringing up an important point: the attack/feel is where you would notice the most impact.

Lower frequencies take more energy to produce than higher frequencies. The sag I've noticed when testing out rectifier tubes effects lower frequencies more, with a delay to powering those power-hungry tones. This results in what I'd say is a definite tonal impact. Note that phase-cancellation relationships will occur anytime you alter the power parameters over time.

For example, I vastly prefer my Ken-Rad 5U4G to RCA 5U4G, because the Ken-Rad provides a more powerful low-end punch, and has greater clarity to the highs. In comparison, the RCA is more compressed, and has reduced high-frequency information (more rolled-off). This effect is even more pronounced when comparing RCA 5V4G to Ken-Rad 5V4G.

For 5U4GB, I much prefer NOS Tung-Sol to, say, Sylvania. This is for much the same reasons as the Ken-Rad/RCA referenced above. One may choose the opposite of me, for the same reasons (but with different taste).

And if you don't hear it, or feel it, no sweat! I still highly recommend NOS rectifiers for their durability. You'd definitely notice if it stopped working :wink:

- Thom
 
nathan28 said:
I changed the stock mesa 5u4g for the jj gz34. The gz34 is louder and tighter, not near as much sag.


Could you please tell me how you changed to the GZ34? I have been wanting to do this same conversion. Thanks.
 
5u4 and 5ar4 are pin compatible. Just stick in the 5ar4 where the 5u4 went. 5ar4 likes having 30 seconds at least to warm up due to having indirectly heated cathode.
 
leblanc74 said:
where is a good online place that I could get my tubes from?

These guys are great, and fast shipping, usually have a good selection to.

http://www.boiaudioworks.com/index.php
 
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