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Pmaurer

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I'm new to the whole tube amp / cabinet set up and I've gotten tones that I really like for some of the bands I listen to on my Dual Rectifier. However, In what spot should I be trying to get the right tone from? I mean the direction. When I'm right in front of the speakers (about 5 feet away), this is where I stand for the tone since I figured the mic would be placed right in front of the amp. But, when I sit down RIGHT in front of the speaker cabinet and play, the tone is a lot more treble...is this what the mic would be picking up and not the sound I'm hearing from 5 feet away? Do I need to dial back my tone even more so that it sounds exactly how I want it to when I'm sitting down right in front of the speakers? I've always wondered about this so please help me out!
 
You need to stand about 10 feet back. Ideally you'd be playing on a wooden floor with wooden walls, or on a wooden stage.
 
but wouldn't the mic be placed about an inch from the cabinet? Certainly not 10 feet away. Unless this would somehow be the same tone?
 
When standing or kneeling right in front of the cab you're getting a very uneven response. Backing yourself up 10, 20, 40 feet will give you a better idea of what the audience actually hears. This is helpful for the reason you mentioned... if you dial it in to sound good to you standing up you'll be throwing so much treble into the audience that everyone will be avoided your side of the stage.

As for the mic... the only way to hear what the mic's hearing is to monitor the actual mic. Changing it's distance, angle, and position on the speaker will all change how it hears the speaker. The best way to gauge it would be to mic the cab and then listen through either your studio monitors or the FOH PA speakers since those will be what the audience actually listens to. It's why the soundman will sometimes ask you to adjust the EQ on your amp... sometimes the tone that's working for you on stage isn't working for the mic or the PA.
 
so a band's studio amp settings could be different than the live ones?
 
I have mixed feelings about going into the studio due to different settings on my Roadster! Amp is amazing but I have a setup for live and rehearsal... studio is going to very different I am sure. For all the tone that comes out of that amp it will be fun... for me anyways :D
 
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