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ElectricTurkey4369

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i want to upgrade from my Single Recto to either a Mark IV or a Roadster. I have heard some things about the Roadster not being as buzzy and chainsawish as the rectos and such, which interests me because I like my recto tone, but it seems to be missing something. If anyone here has one , can you tell me what you like and what you dont like about it?

Thanks! :D
 
Roadster is the same recto but with a better nice sounding clean and a constant tweaking channel 2. Has a pretty decent reverb and best of all, a series effects loop.
 
the roadster is darker, and not as fizzy. and it sounds heavier than a single recto, but it also has a 50, 100 switch for each channel.
 
I own a Roadster and this thing is a monster. I owned several amps before my boogie and the roadster tops it all.

I ordered a bias mod for mine so I can experiment with a different brand Power Tubes.
 
The Roadster is a pretty awesome amp. Buy one only if you like the Recto distortion though. If you don't, don't buy one.

A lot of people say it is darker -- which is true. That is a bit of a misnomer though, in that you can definitely get some higher midrange sounds out of using the Tweed setting for clean/crunch tones, or by turning up the presence in channel 4 modern (which is more responsive than in any of the other three channels) for a brighter and fizzier modern distortion sound. The darker sounds that are abundant in many of the channels are great for some really good blackface cleans and those overdriven blues tones. The darker tone also helps users get closer to the older two channel Recto tones of the '90s. Overall, the Roadster is a very, very smooth and versatile Rectifier.

Also try a Mark. Those amp are also killer. Different, but equally amazing. Sustain for days and unusually tighter all around. Coming from a Recto, a Mark will seem unnaturally tight. Vice versa and the Recto will seem unusually loose. It should be noted that with a boost, some reverb, and some slight delay the Roadster can get some very fantastic lead tones that are more akin to the Mark series amps. The Mark amps cannot however replicate the attitude and aggression of Recto chunk and gain. If you want that sort of sound, get a Roadster or a Rockerverb. With the v-curve eq setting switched in on the Mark V extreme mode, I was able to get a similar voicing to a Recto amp, but without the big, loose feeling of Recto saturation. If you want some gainy higher midrange (don't mistake this comment for thinking a Mark will sound like a Marshall, it won't) and tighter crunch, then get a Mark amp.
 
BostonRedSox said:
The Roadster is a pretty awesome amp. Buy one only if you like the Recto distortion though.

Also try a Mark. Those amp are also killer. Different, but equally amazing. Sustain for days and unusually tighter all around. Coming from a Recto, a Mark will seem unnaturally tight. Vice versa and the Recto will seem unusually loose.

+1,000.

~Nep~
 
The Roadster kills. I have been through at least a dozen tube amps in the past 5 years. After having the Roadster for 2 years I no longer gas for other amps. You do have to spend some time with it. I played around with preamp tubes for quite a while before i found the perfect combination for me. The amp really does it all very well.
 
BostonRedSox said:
The Roadster is a pretty awesome amp. Buy one only if you like the Recto distortion though. If you don't, don't buy one.

A lot of people say it is darker -- which is true. That is a bit of a misnomer though, in that you can definitely get some higher midrange sounds out of using the Tweed setting for clean/crunch tones, or by turning up the presence in channel 4 modern (which is more responsive than in any of the other three channels) for a brighter and fizzier modern distortion sound. The darker sounds that are abundant in many of the channels are great for some really good blackface cleans and those overdriven blues tones. The darker tone also helps users get closer to the older two channel Recto tones of the '90s. Overall, the Roadster is a very, very smooth and versatile Rectifier.

Also try a Mark. Those amp are also killer. Different, but equally amazing. Sustain for days and unusually tighter all around. Coming from a Recto, a Mark will seem unnaturally tight. Vice versa and the Recto will seem unusually loose. It should be noted that with a boost, some reverb, and some slight delay the Roadster can get some very fantastic lead tones that are more akin to the Mark series amps. The Mark amps cannot however replicate the attitude and aggression of Recto chunk and gain. If you want that sort of sound, get a Roadster or a Rockerverb. With the v-curve eq setting switched in on the Mark V extreme mode, I was able to get a similar voicing to a Recto amp, but without the big, loose feeling of Recto saturation. If you want some gainy higher midrange (don't mistake this comment for thinking a Mark will sound like a Marshall, it won't) and tighter crunch, then get a Mark amp.

Thanks! that was VERY helpful.
Thats also my dilemma at the moment...Mark IV or Roadster. Im just very cautious about the Mark because i have heard so many mixed opinions about the amp its ridiculous. Some say the Mark is amazing, but only with the V EQ curve. If thats the case I'd rather get the roadster because for one, i dont like scooped mids, and secondly it seems then if thats the best EQ setting then everyone will use it and the tone wont be unique, if you get what im saying. John Petrucci uses the V curve and I dont want to sound like him either. And I heard the R2 channel isnt all that great. Im dying to try one to get my own opinion, but cant find one anywhere :(
 
ElectricTurkey4369 said:
i want to upgrade from my Single Recto to either a Mark IV or a Roadster. I have heard some things about the Roadster not being as buzzy and chainsawish as the rectos and such, which interests me because I like my recto tone, but it seems to be missing something. If anyone here has one , can you tell me what you like and what you dont like about it?

Thanks! :D

I'm assuming you have tried different tubes / cabs / speakers? The hard bit is trying to identify what exactly is 'missing'. Pickups also change tone a lot. Using different cabs with my Dual shapes the tone immensely and swapping my stock burstbucker pups for Bare Knuckle Rebel Yells also was a marked improvement.
The biggest difference though with a Dual / Roadster / Triple / Tremoverb is the presence of the tube rectifier. It adds a certain soul and sweetness to the amp. The only 'downside' is that it makes the amp less tight. I have tried the Single Recto series II and I honestly really liked it. The biggest difference between it and my 2 Channel is the tube rectifier and obviously the extra headroom. Aside from that, the dual is less 'stiff' and there is a certain organic feel to the response. I'd say look into a 2 channel recto / tremoverb as much as a roadster, if you think you can get by with two channels. The Recto Reborn heads are also great!
I can't comment on a Mark series amp though, since I haven't ever tried one.
 
I was originally going to buy the 2010 Dual Rect Reborn but backed out after coming to the realization that it would be my only tube amp and that I didn't particularly want a one trick pony. As said, the Roadster seems to be more versatile thus why I went with it. I'll admit that I have never played a Roadster (non to try in my area) but I have seen some clips on youtube and felt it was pretty promising (once I dial in my own sounds). I actually have a Roadster Head arriving tomorrow (Ebay purchase). I really hope that I like the Roadster as much, if not more, than I did the 2010 Dual Reborn. :mrgreen:
 
For the record i went from a Mark IV / Stiletto Cab half stack to a Roadster 2x12 combo and wouldn't go back. The Roadster is amazing but I am a not a lead player. The Mark series are most definitely lead player's amps. They really shine in that department. R2 is the weakest part at least in the Mark IV.
 
GuitarGuy503 said:
I was originally going to buy the 2010 Dual Rect Reborn but backed out after coming to the realization that it would be my only tube amp and that I didn't particularly want a one trick pony.

BAHA! I heard a number of guitarists all play my rig this summer with my EQ settings and my guitar. It was stunning how each one sound so very different, and this was before personalizing anything. Swapping guitars makes an even bigger difference as does swapping cabinets.
This summer, I put bareknuckle rebel yells in my gibby and I redid the electronics. The effect of using the tone knobs on the guitar also makes a myriad of different tones possible out of one head, and I have a 2 channel revision F dual.
The 'one trick' these heads do is good tone, as far as I am concerned. The rest of the limitations rest in your right and left hand.
 
The new dual and triple recs aren't a one trick pony. All of the updated features really enhance the amp's ability to play in just about any genre. Check out the demo on mesa's site for both the new Recto and the Roadster. They both give a great overall example of what these amps can do. I just went in to a guitar center and spent about an hour with a mark v, a Roadster and the new Dual Rec and to me the DR sounds the best out of the bunch, which is why I just ordered two of them :lol: Before this I was sure that I was going to be getting a Roadster and a Mark V. That trip changed my mind completely.
http://www.mesaboogie.com/demo/index.html

Good luck man!

-AJH
 
Upon returning to this thread I'm going to admit that my previous comment regarding the 2010 Rects was a poor choice of words. I have seen the Mesa demo of the 2010 Rects and realize they are more versatile than ever, however, I still view it as more of a rock amp due to its more aggressive voicing and lack of reverb. I think the smoother voicing of Roadster alone makes it much more of a versatile amp. Not to mention the spring reverb and the extra modes of the Roadster add a nice twist and make it even more versatile. You may disagree but thats just my opinion.
 
MesaENGR412 said:
Did the Roadster come in yet?

-AJH


It did. I've actually had it for about a week now. :) When I first plugged in I was like "something doesn't sound right" and then it hit me that I was running it through a Marshall Cab with G12T 75s. lol Needless to say I'm in the process of getting a Roadster 2x12 Cab to complete the rig. Other than that I'm thoroughly enjoying my new Roadster. :mrgreen:
 
Just sold my Marshall cab on CL. I'm gonna go place an order for the Roadster 2x12 later this morning.... :mrgreen:
 
GuitarGuy503 said:
Just sold my Marshall cab on CL. I'm gonna go place an order for the Roadster 2x12 later this morning.... :mrgreen:

Awesome man. The Head should open up a little more with V30's (my ears can't stand G12-75's with Rectos) I have heard and read good things about the Roadster cab. Good stuff. Glad you are liking the head.

espboogie123: I would assume that since he has a Roadster head, he wants to pair it with the Roadster cab, and also, the speakers are the same however the cab dimensions are a little smaller, making it a tighter, more focused sounding cab. That's just my guess though.

-AJH
 
espboogie123 said:
why you choosing the roadster 2x12 over the bigger recto 2x12? Both are with same speakers I believe.

Because it is 10lbs lighter than the Recto cab and is a tad smaller all around dimensionwise. I drive a 2 door car so the more portable the better for me. I like to keep things as simple as possible as well.....
 

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