TC100 and TC50 signal flow diagrams

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I thought I had posted this already. If I did, sorry for the repeat. I did update the image today so here it is. This amp is very close to the RA100 except for the op-amp circuits that follow the Hi and Lo gain channels, those are not present on the RA100 Hi/Lo gain circuitry but the buffers after the clean channel are there. If you ever wondered where the highest gain of any amp came from, it is due to the op-amp circuits that follow the tone stack. the op-amp compensated signal path does prevent you from gaining any changes with tube swaps for V3 and V4. You may notice a slight change but not much. V5 and V7 are the two positions you can get some change. The JAN/Phillips 12AT7 in V5 on the TC100 did make a world of difference. V7, use any 12AX7 you want. Regardless of the design, the TC100 and TC50 are decent amps.

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Forgive my layman understanding of amp design, but what is the purpose of the OP-AMP buffer in this context and is it an uncommon design for some reason?
 
Forgive my layman understanding of amp design, but what is the purpose of the OP-AMP buffer in this context and is it an uncommon design for some reason?
Just to start off, the diagram will be updated after this reply. Somebody dropped some information my way so I needed to correct it again.

As for the op-amps, Mesa would have the answer for that question. They did it with the ED and the clean channel on the RA100. If you were to compare the clean circuit to a Mark amp, it is using one less preamp triode. The op-amp buffer would not be required since they already had a free triode they could have used (V2B). If unity gain was the objective here, perhaps a plate driven output stage was not desired and the op-amp buffer was the way to go? Signal Balance between the channels? Not really sure. The Electra-Dyne has the same circuit following all of the tube stages. RA100 only implements this on the clean channel. There is something missing from the schematic but is present on the PCB assembly. There are a total of three TL072 op-amps. However only two are shown on paper. I have found the one that follows the clean channel as it is located very close to the V2 socket. The one for the reverb is also identified as rev-in. The one on the front end is a mystery. TL072 and 4558D are both dual op-amp devices. It is one of those usual Mesa omissions either intended to confuse or make you think this is not the actual schematic.

This is the TC50 where the input is located. You can see the two op-amps side by side. The TL072 is on the left and the 4558D is on the left. I will not bother to speculate what the TL072 is doing here, it was left out of document I received recently.

tc50 front end image.jpg


This is the same circuit but on paper.

tc front6 end.jpg

The TL072 in the picture is not identified in the document. I will not show any more than this.

I was also wrong about the reverb circuit. The reverb input signal is pulled from one side of a 68K resistor and the return is on the other side, but in front of the FX recovery stage. Thinking the TC was similar to the RA100 (it is) the feedback I got with the FX loop set in open circuit and turned on, was due to parasitic oscillation caused by the open circuit on the FX return. That noise rattled the reverb but not the way I thought it would.
 

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