setup for a show

[rouleau]

Hello !

My litle rock/metal band will play in a small club (50 persons) soon, each guitarist have a dual rect with cab, the bassman have a trace eliot 4X10 cabs and the drummer play loud. In the practice local we have a very loud sound tight and clear . What do you think about going play in the bar without miking anything or maybe only the bass drum (of course the singer) .


i'm waiting for yours comments

thank's

 

[MesaENGR412]

In most small venues, the only thing that is necessary to mic up is the bass drum along with the vocals. Most times in a
place like that the sound system isn't capable of handling anything else. I would say just turn up a bit with the amps and
don't mic them at all. Just make sure you don't overpower the mains that are carrying the vocals, because it can quickly become just jumbled noise.

-AJH

 

[UltraGary]

Not only is the above poster correct on how few mics most all clubs will have available (especially if your band has back up vox happening).... but be ready to turn down quieter than you're used to playing. Unless it's a large venue....both the club & the crowd will not be able to handle the usual 'loud rehearsal' levels you're probably used to.

 

[konstantine RK]

Try to put the backline in a "V" configuration. Maybe even put the rectos on the side of the stage pointing at eachother. For a small place stage level must be lower than what you are used to because you want to be asked for another gig.

Get your drummer to play lighter or quieter because what you guys hear and what other ppl hear is very different.

good luck!

 

[ryjan]

Yeah, generally you'll be asked to play quieter than you are used to at practice.

 

[paintballnsk]

Either trust the sound man (which is usually impossible), or get a friend in the center of the audience to give you the "up/down" signals to level you.

I try solve all these problems by going wireless and walking out there myself while we're soundchecking, but unless you have a quick plug-and-go rack setup, it's not worth the hassle.

You'll figure it out. You need to level in relevance to the drums and vocals, and a 4x12 will project a lot more than you think when you're on stage. I've played several smaller shows where I could barely hear myself, but was blasting the crowd. It's just how the room acoustics are in small venues. The cab isn't at your head level and you don't have a lot of room to walk in front of it, so you're going to feel the need to turn up. Don't.

Also balance whether it's a rock show, or if you're playing a bar on a "band" night. No bar regulars want to come and get blasted, no matter how good you are, they want to be able to talk/shout to the person next to them. If you're using rectifiers above 10/11:00 you're probably too loud haha.

Also make sure your bass player isn't drowning you and the kick drum out.

 

[rouleau]

Thank'you guys for all your advices !!
Great Forum !!!

8)

 

[rouleau]

Hello Guys and girls !!!
There is a clip of the show that a ask you recommandation, you can ear on this clip 2 dual rectifier straight with only tuner pedal in the chain.
It's a very basic setting only the vocal in the P.A. and the bass drum miked in an old peavey bass amp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD75ue8WcTQ

thank's

 

[ryjan]

Great mix man. Maybe the bass could have been a smidge louder to fill in the bottom but you sounded pretty balanced. I wish Dime would have played a Dual Rectifier.