Recto 4x12 Cabs: Straight or Slant?

[CudBucket]

Which do you prefer and why?

I'm about to build a recto style 4x12 and am trying to decide which style. Some of you may know I've built these two after the Recto 2x12 cabs. I'd like to try a 4x12.

BTW, I'm selling these two custom cabs.

I don't have room for another cab so I need to move these or at least one of them. They feature:

* Mesa Black Tolex
* Mark IV Head-style Mesa handle
* Black Metal corners
* 10 guage Sound Runner speaker wire
* Gold plated clip-on wire terminals soldered to the wire
* Wired for 8 ohm Mono and 16 ohm stereo
* 4 rubber feet
* Same dimensions as Mesa 2x12 Rectifier cab
* Two circular ports for better low-end extension

Currently, one of them has 2 brand new Avatar Hellatone 60L speakers which are Celestion Vintage 30's that are broken in by Avatar. One of them has only one Hellatone 60L. It requires a speaker. These are new speakers with less than 8 hours on them. The 60L is different than the standard Hellatone 60 in that it has a slightly heavier low-end. I paid $85 each. These drop-dead new condition speakers. Here is a picture of the one:

They used to have grills with a wicker-type cloth and white piping but I've replaced that with black grill cloth. I just haven't replaced the piping on the grills yet. I thought about a different grill cloth and never got to re-doing them.

Here's what I'm asking:

1) Cabinet with 2 Hellatone 60Ls, no grill - $300
2) Empty Cabinet, no grill - $175
3) Grill, black or wicker with white piping - $25

Of course, if there is interest in both cabs, I can only sell one with both speakers loaded since I have 3 speakers. In that case, if anyone is interested in a cab with one Hellatone 60L, I could do that for $225.

These cabinets are in pristine, new condition. Here's a picture I just took minutes ago...

I'd like to build a 4x12 and maybe a couple of Thiele's but I don't have room for all that, so here they are. You can email me or PM me if you're interested. They'd be available for pickup or shipping to be paid by the buyer.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[123thefirst]

I definitely prefer the slant to the straight assuming the cabinet is sitting on the floor. Otherwise you need to be a long way off or be sitting to get close to the center of sound projection.

Even better is a cabinet banked at a larger angle as most amplifier stands will do for you. But that's pretty impractical with a 4x12.

 

[gooberizer]

I like the 4x12 straight on the bottom for making my pants legs flap, and the slant stacked on top for making my ears ring! :twisted:

Actually I have found that my preference differs depending on the situation. If I'm playing in a small space and I'm forced to stand close to my amp or at low volume I use the slant for better dispersion. In a large space at higher volume I use the full stack. For sheer brutal thump the straight is the way to go.

Obviously, what you've already built is pretty **** nice. I'd say if you're only going to build one 4x12 then make it a slant. But judging by your skills I wonder why you wouldn't simply build BOTH.

 

[mightywarlock]

I've got 2 Straight Slants.

is this the best of both worlds?

:lol:

 

[CudBucket]

Obviously, what you've already built is pretty **** nice. I'd say if you're only going to build one 4x12 then make it a slant. But judging by your skills I wonder why you wouldn't simply build BOTH.

Thank you. The issue is space so I don't think I can build two. At least not right now. If I was in a band and playing out, I could justify another one so I could have one to keep at home. We'll see.

Actually, I just sold one of the 2x12 cabs so I think I can hang on to the other one if it doesn't sell since I can just put the 4x12 on top or vice versa.

Dave

 

[jtb226]

why not build a straight front cab with a slanted baffle? that's what my mesa cabs are and i LOVE them.

 

[CudBucket]

why not build a straight front cab with a slanted baffle? that's what my mesa cabs are and i LOVE them.

I could do that. By slant though, I meant where only the top two speakers are slanted.

 

[RR]

Technical speaking, doesn't the straight Recto's has 3 deg. (or is 1 deg.?) slant on the speaker baffle panel?

 

[CudBucket]

I sold one of the two cabs this week. The buyer asked me to change the grille to some nice wicker I had on them originally. I built a new grille and just shipped it yesterday. Here are some pics.

 

[Elpelotero]

straight=slightly more bass due to the increased room inside (wavelengths expand more)
slant=better projection to your ears.

The first part is argued by some, but it makes theoretical sense. Honestly, a recto cab already has tons of bass. I don't see the need for any more!

 

[RR]

That is some nice work CudBucket, especially the grill.

Getting a grill taunt it one thing, getting it taunt and straight is another thing. I'm getting better, just got a pneumatic stapler gun 1/2" crown. Makes the work a little easier.

 

[CudBucket]

That is some nice work CudBucket, especially the grill.

Getting a grill taunt it one thing, getting it taunt and straight is another thing. I'm getting better, just got a pneumatic stapler gun 1/2" crown. Makes the work a little easier.

Ain't that the truth. I have a Porter Cable stapler gun but I only used it to tack down the piping. I used a manual stapler for the grill. I made a new frame for this one and cut it from one solid piece of baltic birch ply. It's much firmer that way. The pneumatic staples are pretty much permanent so I try not to use them all the time.

As far as getting them straight is concerned, I prefer using grill cloths that are not made of nylon. They stretch too much and it makes it difficult to keep straight. Plus, just shooting a staple through it makes it move out of alignment and the offset is not always the same from staple to staple so it gradually becomes uneven. Also, nylon really needs evenly spaced staples due to that stretching quality.