Recording a Recto using Slave output

[PierLCD]

Hi everyone,


I'm a Single Recto owner for few months. I will soon record some stuff with my band, and I'd like to record my guitar this way:
- putting a mic in front of my 2*12 cab;
- at the same time, running a jack from the "slave out" output to one of the inputs of an audio interface, this allowing to get the original pre-amp signal and work on it with "Guitar Rig" (or something similar) to then add a cab sim.

I don't really know if the "Slave" output can be used this way and if the results that can be obtained working that way worth this method...

Has anyone already tried that? Did you get satisfying results from it?

The fact is the acoustic of the place we rehearse at is not that good, so I think the slave option will allow me to get a good sound avoiding reverb or delay problems that could result from the mic take...

Thanks all for your advices and support!

See ya

Pier

 

[jdurso]

Hi everyone,


I'm a Single Recto owner for few months. I will soon record some stuff with my band, and I'd like to record my guitar this way:
- putting a mic in front of my 2*12 cab;
- at the same time, running a jack from the "slave out" output to one of the inputs of an audio interface, this allowing to get the original pre-amp signal and work on it with "Guitar Rig" (or something similar) to then add a cab sim.

I don't really know if the "Slave" output can be used this way and if the results that can be obtained working that way worth this method...

Has anyone already tried that? Did you get satisfying results from it?

The fact is the acoustic of the place we rehearse at is not that good, so I think the slave option will allow me to get a good sound avoiding reverb or delay problems that could result from the mic take...

Thanks all for your advices and support!

See ya

Pier

It can be and might be a great way to go if you get a software with IRs because the slave signal contains the characteristics of the power amp.

 

[PierLCD]

Ok, so contrary to the Loop Send output, slave output consists of the signal that comes after the power amp, right? Is it however a "line-in" level signal?

I'm sorry but even if I'm quite fluent in english, I simply don't get what "IRs" are...

Can you explain it to me and give me some examples of softwares please?

Thanks a lot!

 

[jdurso]

Ok, so contrary to the Loop Send output, slave output consists of the signal that comes after the power amp, right? Is it however a "line-in" level signal?

I'm sorry but even if I'm quite fluent in english, I simply don't get what "IRs" are...

Can you explain it to me and give me some examples of softwares please?

Thanks a lot!

IR stands for impulse response and in the digital world of guitar gera that translates into modelling certain spaces. A lot of people see that as reverb but an impulse response is much more complex in that it literaly attempts to model a specific space. The are also cabinet IRs which are more commonly known as Cabinet Sims... if your signal from the slave out contains the pre and power amp characteristics, so the IRs would cover you cab simulation and room or reverb sim which should be the basic parts of any tone (your cab and its interaction with the room are hence being modelled).

 

[PierLCD]

Great, I got it, thanks!

I will use either Guitar Rig 2 to have IRs or my GT-8 (don't know if it could properly work...), so I think it will sound quite ok.

Actually I thought that it was the Cab section that includes kind of a power amp sim, but according to what you've written this may be done in the pre-amp section of the software...

Let's have a try now! :wink:

 

[insideout]

Interesting that you posted this, because I just tried this for the first time last week with my Deuce II. I put an attenuator on the Deuce so I could crank the amp and still be in the room with it. Ran the slave to a Toneport UX2 and into Sonar. Added cab sim after the fact with Waves GTR. For a first try I was very satisfied with the results. The great thing about using Waves GTR also is that you can run a left and right channel. I put a different cab and mic in left than right, and it gave a HUGE sound. I'll do this for rhythm stuff to seperate it in the stereo field, then center lead tracks. There seems to be a lot of advantages doing it this way. The biggest ones are that you can attenuate volume (which I would never want to record) and in my case, my idiot dog barking in the other room doesn't ruin my track 8)

 

[jdurso]

Interesting that you posted this, because I just tried this for the first time last week with my Deuce II. I put an attenuator on the Deuce so I could crank the amp and still be in the room with it. Ran the slave to a Toneport UX2 and into Sonar. Added cab sim after the fact with Waves GTR. For a first try I was very satisfied with the results. The great thing about using Waves GTR also is that you can run a left and right channel. I put a different cab and mic in left than right, and it gave a HUGE sound. I'll do this for rhythm stuff to seperate it in the stereo field, then center lead tracks. There seems to be a lot of advantages doing it this way. The biggest ones are that you can attenuate volume (which I would never want to record) and in my case, my idiot dog barking in the other room doesn't ruin my track 8)

its a great way to do on the fly recordings and with the right software record when you dont have super expensive recording equipment as a good IR library with a signal from a quality amp can in a lot of amateur recordings sound better than a mic and a cab. Also using an attenuator will allow you to get that cranked sound without getting a noise violation.