Pedals or Processor??? Age old question!

[Sickindian]

My opinion Multieffects-->artificial
Stomp boxes-->genuine

 

[petejt]

I prefer pedals. I can't seem to gel with rack processors.

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

Simple, both. They each offer something different and therefore have their place. Just choose the right ones and place them accordingly.

 

[MesaMonster]

Seems to me that the ideal setup would be the G-system with analog overdrive pedals in the loops. You get the best of both worlds. It's too bad that the G-system does not have a pedal included. I thought about the G-Major but I don't want another item to have to lug around. I have my rig down to four pieces that includes a heavy ass Road King. I would like to make my pedal board smaller. They guys at church call my board the Spaceship Enterprise and it has just landed. I like the idea of being able to punch in one patch that will turn on an overdrive, change a channel and knock in a few time based effects. Thanks for listening.

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

O/D and Dist pedals are always far more responsive on the front of the amp rather than the loop due to the gain stage being most sensitive to the dynamics of picking and volume changes. Also, as I've discovered the G-Major, while a good product (for the money) and very easily controlled, has what I would consider a design flaw in that it only uses one internal processor rather than two. Thus making stereo simulated rather than actual. This can be an issue when using a L/R preamp setup. Using a signal router/switcher such as the GCX creates a workaround for the issue and futher allows you to switch other components in you signal chain.

 

[MesaMonster]

O/D and Dist pedals are always far more responsive on the front of the amp rather than the loop due to the gain stage being most sensitive to the dynamics of picking and volume changes. Also, as I've discovered the G-Major, while a good product (for the money) and very easily controlled, has what I would consider a design flaw in that it only uses one internal processor rather than two. Thus making stereo simulated rather than actual. This can be an issue when using a L/R preamp setup. Using a signal router/switcher such as the GCX creates a workaround for the issue and futher allows you to switch other components in you signal chain.

Misspoke. I meant the OD and Distortion in the loop of the G-System to go to the front of the amp. I like the idea of one device to control everything including any favorite pedals I may want to include. Very versatile.

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

Ditto, I've never been good at tap dancing

 

[Scary]

I use the G-force in the effects loop when I want a few effects with minimal tone suck. I'm stripping down next week by putting only the deluxe memory man in the loop while using the Mark V's reverb if/when needed. It'll be fun to enjoy full analog delay and reverb. =-)

 

[RectoStudioGuy]

I know that anytime I use my old DigiTech 2120 VGS, that even though I've got it dialed in and it's setup as good as it can be, that when I put it up to some decent volume it doesn't sound completely natural. Don't get me wrong it sounds nice for the most part but the tech just wasn't there in the days it was produced. These days equip is much better and far more simple to use than ever before. One can't measure the current generation of processors on the failures of the past. Of course some don't or can't use them correctly and end up with a synthetic sound devoid of tone. But in the right hands processors and pedals can go hand in hand with great success.

 

[Monsta-Tone]

Misspoke. I meant the OD and Distortion in the loop of the G-System to go to the front of the amp. I like the idea of one device to control everything including any favorite pedals I may want to include. Very versatile.

You can place the Loops on the G-System anywhere you want. And, you can use the 4 cable method to put the OD's in front of the amp with some onboard compression. chorus, whatever. Then, place the delays, reverbs, etc. in your amp's loop.


The only reason I sent the G-System back was the thought of the pedal being damaged and then I'm out a pedal and a processor. I know it's extremely tough (saw the tank video), but I just don't have $1,500 to throw away right now.

I ended up getting an older Ground Control and a new G-Major 2 for under $500!
It's nowhere near as powerful or flexible as the G-System was, but I can always pick up a GCX for under $400 and have most of the functionality that the System has to offer.

 

[MesaMonster]

Misspoke. I meant the OD and Distortion in the loop of the G-System to go to the front of the amp. I like the idea of one device to control everything including any favorite pedals I may want to include. Very versatile.

You can place the Loops on the G-System anywhere you want. And, you can use the 4 cable method to put the OD's in front of the amp with some onboard compression. chorus, whatever. Then, place the delays, reverbs, etc. in your amp's loop.


The only reason I sent the G-System back was the thought of the pedal being damaged and then I'm out a pedal and a processor. I know it's extremely tough (saw the tank video), but I just don't have $1,500 to throw away right now.

I ended up getting an older Ground Control and a new G-Major 2 for under $500!
It's nowhere near as powerful or flexible as the G-System was, but I can always pick up a GCX for under $400 and have most of the functionality that the System has to offer.

Have there been reports of G-Systems suffering that kind of failure. I am seriously looking at a G-System to downsize what I already have. I guess the same can be true for any of the processors currently on the market.

 

[MesaMonster]

Bump. Any thoughts?