New song (mark IV)

[Platypus]

Wrote this two weeks ago, this is a rough sketch of the song but I wanted to get some ideas on paper so to speak. This is about half the song, the rest I haven't written drums for yet because I'm still learning

This is my first real recording micing my amp so no more ****** camera videos!

Anyways, let me know what you think of it... it's my first try so I have no delusions that it's awesome by any means.

http://platypus.memoryfire.com/thephoenix.mp3
(mark IV into 2x12 recto cab.. dry mix w/ no EQ or effects)
(two guitar tracks.. the main riff and then I use the eBow over parts of the verse on a second track)

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

Must....retain.....from going crazy...waiting....for Mark IV....

This isn't making it any easier :/

Awesome clip!

 

[18&Life]

Why didn't you doubled the guitar and opened them in stereo ? :shock:

 

[Platypus]

Why didn't you doubled the guitar and opened them in stereo ? :shock:

I only have one mic so I can only record in mono.

 

[18&Life]

what ???????????????????????
No my friend ,why didn't you recorded two tracks of the same guitar and opened them in stereo ?

 

[guitarmaster]

:!:

 

[Platypus]

I'm using garageband.. can anyone explain how to do that?

(this is my first recording attempt so I'm a total noob here)

 

[18&Life]

I think he don't know what is double tracked :shock:
Just record the same guitar 2 times in different tracks.Then panned them far left and right. :wink:

 

[Platypus]

I think he don't know what is double tracked :shock:
Just record the same guitar 2 times in different tracks.Then panned them far left and right. :wink:

Thanks, how does this differ than recording in mono though? When I record in mono it comes out both speakers

 

[guitarmaster]

:!:

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

When you record the two takes, you get different dynamics...different pick attack...those two sounds, panned hard left, and hard right, make a HUGE guitar track...your playing has to really be spot on though, because if you're timing is off between the two, it's gonna be a mess

 

[Platypus]

When you record the two takes, you get different dynamics...different pick attack...those two sounds, panned hard left, and hard right, make a HUGE guitar track...your playing has to really be spot on though, because if you're timing is off between the two, it's gonna be a mess

well I would imagine the software would record what I'm playing once and put it on both tracks no?

 

[18&Life]

Always record two tracks.
Never duplicate it.
Duplicating it still be mono.

Record one.
Open a new track and record the same again.
Then open pans far left and right.
Now you got real stereo.

 

[guitarmaster]

:!:

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

^Exactly...you don't want to simply copy...you want to get a pair of headphones, and play an identical part over it...then pan left and right.

 

[Platypus]

Always record two tracks.
Never duplicate it.
Duplicating it still be mono.

Record one.
Open a new track and record the same again.
Then open pans far left and right.
Now you got real stereo.

I can either choose to record in mono or stereo in the software.. if I choose stereo it only comes out of the left speaker. If I choose mono it comes out of both... should I record both tracks in mono but pan each one differently?

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

^Exactly...sorry...I should have been more specific for garageband, as I use it too :/

Record both takes as mono tracks...then pan each to a side.

 

[Platypus]

Ok.. so how would copying the entire audio track be different than recording the same thing twice? In theory if I copied the same audio and panned one left and one right it would be 'exact'

sorry if these are silly questions

 

[18&Life]

Ok I will try again before start to drawing !!!!!!!!
Record one mono track .
Then record another mono track playing the same stuff.
Now open pans far left and far right.
Now you got real stereo and a really stronger guitar sound.
I can't believe you can't hear that all bands rhythm guitars are doubled. :shock:
luck

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

When I'm on the fly, that's actually how I do it...you still get the effect to a certain extend.

But by taking two takes, you get more dynamics in the sound...as you can not perfectly reproduce the attack, fretting, etc....while the differences are subtle, they really make for a huge mix.