Mesa Recto Weak sounding compared to the Peavey 5150

[volatileNoise]

You guys should own both, end of story...

This.

Owning both is pure bliss. I've had a Roadster and loved it but had to cut back and so I jumped on a 6505+. Both amps have their abilities, the dual recs are much more versatile and definitely sound HUGE but the 6505/6505+ line is just so balls to the wall metal nothing beats it in that department. I don't even run the red lead channel, all my insane metal tones come from the green channel boosted on my 6505+

Bottom line is those two in my opinion are must have amps. You can't get that "brown" sound that so many european metal bands get anywhere else but the Peaveys, and you can't get that great modern huge sound anywhere else but the Recs.

Own both man, own both :twisted:

I like the idea, especially for using both live... one left, one right... can you get an A/B switch setup for when you want the second amp to come in??

 

[Heritage Softail]

Or you can run both amps for the majority of the time and use the lead/solo boost footswitch for volume balance shifts. MKV & Rectifier, hit solo boost on MKV for leads (if you like the MKV tones for leads). Stereo rig w/2x12 cab right and left. Getting too cute with that stuff has never worked out well for me. But then again I am not an experienced stage pro. They probably would have a ground effects and midi controlled set up to simumlaneously change all channels/effects, and 20 years of experice to know how to best do it. 8)

 

[KH Guitar Freak]

I think the rectifier is better in many ways...I played a block letter 5150 for 10 years and it was useless unless you had a maximizer in the loop..rectifier has that tone plus some without the use of extra gear...I actually have an excellent clean tone on my triple rec also... no mods just recapped and tubed it...

but it is all on what your ears hear..everyone will think differently

You lost me at "useless", but that's ok...

 

[Metaghius]

had the typical Peavey bluesy undertone that keep it from reaching the Mesa rec tone...maximizer in the loop would get it close but still an imitation

 

[KH Guitar Freak]

Well, I use mine without effects up front and in the loop, and it gets me great metal tones just fine. Whatever makes you happy I guess...

 

[Metaghius]

agree

 

[Elixir]

had the typical Peavey bluesy undertone that keep it from reaching the Mesa rec tone...maximizer in the loop would get it close but still an imitation

Well I guess if in your head you always wanted the Rec tone then a maximizer in the loop of the peavey makes sense even though it essentially kills what the 6505 is all about.

For metal tones there is nothing better than a 6505 and a Dual Rec to me. Engl savage in a close third.

 

[Metaghius]

yea you are right...I should have clarified my preference in tone before stating my opinion. I guess my ears and my style of music lean me to the rectifier tone. I know the 5150 can crank...(a friend of mine was guitar tech for Rob Flynn of Machine Head for many years and thats all Rob uses is block 5150's)

 

[Elixir]

yea you are right...I should have clarified my preference in tone before stating my opinion. I guess my ears and my style of music lean me to the rectifier tone. I know the 5150 can crank...(a friend of mine was guitar tech for Rob Flynn of Machine Head for many years and thats all Rob uses is block 5150's)

Yah, Rob does love his 5150. Though, I wouldn't say Machine Head has the best 5150 tone. I love In Flames's, Black Dahlia Murder, and WhiteChapel (even though i find them silly) 5150 tones to be the best.

Oh, and "block letter" opposed to any other 5150 doesn't mean anything. They are identical amps in every way besides the tubes that were initially used in the "block letters".

 

[Metaghius]

I didn't know that. I figured they were the same but Rob Flynn himself is the one who told me that the older amps with EVH letters instead of the signature on the front were a little different sounding. I wouldn't think there would be any difference. Good Info..guess the tubes explain his passion for the older amps...

 

[MesaENGR412]

I like the idea, especially for using both live... one left, one right... can you get an A/B switch setup for when you want the second amp to come in??

Yeah, that's fun. I just run both at the same time, no a/b switch. Split signal at the end of my effects pedals with a boss dd-6 w/stereo outs.

 

[KH Guitar Freak]

I didn't know that. I figured they were the same but Rob Flynn himself is the one who told me that the older amps with EVH letters instead of the signature on the front were a little different sounding. I wouldn't think there would be any difference. Good Info..guess the tubes explain his passion for the older amps...

There is a difference. IME, I can't say for sure, but I reckon the differences in tone is down to different brand of valves in them...

 

[Elixir]

I didn't know that. I figured they were the same but Rob Flynn himself is the one who told me that the older amps with EVH letters instead of the signature on the front were a little different sounding. I wouldn't think there would be any difference. Good Info..guess the tubes explain his passion for the older amps...

There is a difference. IME, I can't say for sure, but I reckon the differences in tone is down to different brand of valves in them...

Maybe as the valves age but the difference has already been shown to be miniscule. Most if not all difference would be eq's out of a recording and barely noticeable by anyone playing.

 

[KH Guitar Freak]

I didn't know that. I figured they were the same but Rob Flynn himself is the one who told me that the older amps with EVH letters instead of the signature on the front were a little different sounding. I wouldn't think there would be any difference. Good Info..guess the tubes explain his passion for the older amps...

There is a difference. IME, I can't say for sure, but I reckon the differences in tone is down to different brand of valves in them...

Maybe as the valves age but the difference has already been shown to be miniscule. Most if not all difference would be eq's out of a recording and barely noticeable by anyone playing.

I've compared my block letter 5150 to a stock 6505. I thought the differences were quite apparently, but not necessarily substantial enough for everyone to notice, unless you are a sick gearwhore... :lol:

The 5150 sounded clearer, had wider range for the gain control, and I also noticed you need not run the gain as high to obtain good tones. Again, perhaps like you've said, once the recording tone gets worked on in the studio, the differences might be negligible...

 

[fluff191]

I have owned all variations of the 5150 and the 6505 amps and there are no difference between the 5150 and the 5150II as far as gain channels go.

There are VERY subtle differences between the 5150 models and the 6505 models, however.

 

[MesaENGR412]

I have owned all variations of the 5150 and the 6505 amps and there are no difference between the 5150 and the 5150II as far as gain channels go.

There are VERY subtle differences between the 5150 models and the 6505 models, however.

I would think the differences could stem from circuit board and wiring techniques. I doubt they put the amps together the exact same way that they did back when the head was introduced. Just a thought.

-AJH