Mesa Recto Weak sounding compared to the Peavey 5150

[bermuda_]

Hey Guys

Personally I think as far as aggression on the these two amps goes, the 5150 easily destroys the Mesa Recto in the department, The Recto just seems to lack that tight balls to the wall type of metal sound that the 5150 possesses

Do any of you guys agree with me on this one?

 

[rjf]

Interesting board to post this on... :lol: But yeah... I'd have to somewhat agree. I went from a Dual Rec 3 channel strait to a 5150II and was happy with the change.

Much tighter, punchier, and slightly more aggressive. For the money, you can't beat used 5150's that are out there.

Now granted, I've learned to like the rectifiers for what they are, which is why I purchased another one, but went with a better, early 2ch dual. If I am in the mood to play something just as deep, aggressive, and as balsy as I can, I go use something other than my rectifier. The recs just seem to mud up on the low end if you get too aggressive with the EQ and gain, which is why I was happy to go to a 5150 from my old dual 3ch.

 

[emperor_black]

Did u try a BBE in the loop of the rectum-frier yet? :evil:

 

[rjf]

Did u try a BBE in the loop of the rectum-frier yet? :evil:

I did, thought it sucked....

 

[emperor_black]

ok, then I'm not sure. I did own a 5150 once and thought it was awesome! Never owned a recto before, and maybe never will. :roll:

 

[Sixstringpsycho]

my buddy and I A/B'd a 5150 and a Roadster, the Roadster destroyed the 5150 so I sorta see the point but needless to say, maybe thats just the tone preference of our ears. I have considered picking up a 5150 because they are super good deals on the used circuit.

 

[gplex]

I thought the same about the Rec gettin muddy. I have an old block letter 5150. So I know what you mean. Different strokes......

I retubbed my dual rec through eurotubes with two Kt88 and two kt66. That will do for you what you want it to. It will pummel you with tight agressive base, and tame the sizzel a little.

I no longer have the amp. Moved on. But for a 100 bucks or so, you will not regret it. It will sound even meaner than the Peavey, if thats what your after.
I thought it helped the cleaner side of thing also.

It's no sutble change, it is immedieate, and extremely different. To me that is how that amp should come.

 

[fluff191]

I sold my 5150II when I got my 08 Dual Recto. The Dual Recto is just WAY more versatile and sounded bigger to my ears. The 5150 could do metal all day long, but not much else.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the 5150. But for my money its a Dual Recto all the way.

 

[Turumbar82]

I sold my 5150II when I got my 08 Dual Recto. The Dual Recto is just WAY more versatile and sounded bigger to my ears. The 5150 could do metal all day long, but not much else.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the 5150. But for my money its a Dual Recto all the way.

I agree. If I was playing just straight metal all the time then I would just have a 5150.

 

[MesaENGR412]

I just bought a 5150 II to run in unison with my Triple Recto. I really like them running together, they sound HUGE. I would have to agree somewhat with the original statement. But, I have my Recto set up with EL-34B's and a concoction of preamp tubes and it sounds really mean. I have a nice mid range punch, with no "woof" in the bass department. No 'fizz' either. Gain's around 1 o'clock. The 5150 II has A TON of gain and low end, especially when you flick the "Resonance" knob around to like 6-7. And, it's HELL-A-LOUD. It's a non-master volume, so, post gain (volume) goes from transistor radio nasal "off" to stage volume from 0-4 lol. I ran both heads into 1 cab a couple weeks ago (stereo) and the 5150 was a lot louder than the triple rec. Didn't have enough time to match volumes. The 5150 II also has a LOT of high end, so, you have to EQ kinda weird to keep it from being brittle or "ice picky." I'm looking forward to putting some TAD 6L6GC's in it and seeing what that does. Also thinking of putting some different preamp tubes in it eventually. Right now it's got sovteks and EH12ax7's. Don't know how old they are.

oh yeah. The clean kinda sucks. My triple rec's clean sounds a LOT better than the 5150's. I have the PV set to do a more 'california clean' so that I can also utilize the "crunch" channel, and get a good amount of gain with it boosted (maxon od808). I do NOT run the od all the time though. EMG's at 18v and the gain in the head are more than enough. I just boost for solos.

-AJH

 

[emperor_black]

AJH, when you say you're running them both with 1 cab, is the cab in stereo? So, one side is the rectifier and one side is the peavey?

I had a wild idea the other day. I was thinking about placing the speakers in a X pattern so the left stereo channel will be the left top and right bottom speaker and the right stereo channel will be the top right and left bottom. Alas, my speaker wires inside the cab were not long enough and I had to abandon the idea until I get some new speaker wires.

 

[MesaENGR412]

AJH, when you say you're running them both with 1 cab, is the cab in stereo? So, one side is the rectifier and one side is the peavey?

Yeah, i ran both heads into one of my Recto cabs in stereo (4 ohms each). Mesa was left side, Peavey was right side. Cab was not mic'd. It takes a little work to find a good volume balance when running two heads into one cab. But, they really compliment each other well. I prefer both heads to have their own cab, because they seem to kind of snuff each other out a little bit when ran in the same enclosure. Running them independently in two cabs allows each to "breathe" if you will.

-AJH

 

[volatileNoise]

Personally I think as far as aggression on the these two amps goes, the 5150 easily destroys the Mesa Recto in the department, The Recto just seems to lack that tight balls to the wall type of metal sound that the 5150 possesses

While I am at it... after my Bogner experience today...

WRONG, the 5150 is maybe as good as a Recto with 'certain' heavy tones, heck maybe even a tad better for those with a crap and/or lightweight guitar, but no sorry, you are wrong.

I have used both side by side in a recording studio several months back, and it DID have a relatively good tone, but then I said to the producer that owned this particular 5150, "OK cool" now what other tones/sounds can it do??

And he said, well that's about it really...

And basically I said, stick it back in storage we won't be needing it... And I must say, that later he was really blown away with what we ended up getting outta the DR, by the time we'd finished tracking! :twisted:

 

[KH Guitar Freak]

You guys should own both, end of story...

 

[Heritage Softail]

I sold my 5150II when I got my 08 Dual Recto. The Dual Recto is just WAY more versatile and sounded bigger to my ears. The 5150 could do metal all day long, but not much else.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the 5150. But for my money its a Dual Recto all the way.

You have the modded Rec that sounds like a hybrid REC/5150? How did the cleans turn out in the mods?

I am thinking about that mod idea. My Single REC Series II, I picked up used has had some? work done to it. Has a shiny new transfromer, don't know what else. I put some old Tesla EL34s in and Tung Sols up front. A mix of a 5150 and REC does sound interesting.

 

[survive autodafe]

+1 on the recto retube.

 

[volatileNoise]

You guys should own both, end of story...

huh, who should? and why? :lol:

 

[Elixir]

You guys should own both, end of story...

This.

Owning both is pure bliss. I've had a Roadster and loved it but had to cut back and so I jumped on a 6505+. Both amps have their abilities, the dual recs are much more versatile and definitely sound HUGE but the 6505/6505+ line is just so balls to the wall metal nothing beats it in that department. I don't even run the red lead channel, all my insane metal tones come from the green channel boosted on my 6505+

Bottom line is those two in my opinion are must have amps. You can't get that "brown" sound that so many european metal bands get anywhere else but the Peaveys, and you can't get that great modern huge sound anywhere else but the Recs.

Own both man, own both :twisted:

 

[Metaghius]

I think the rectifier is better in many ways...I played a block letter 5150 for 10 years and it was useless unless you had a maximizer in the loop..rectifier has that tone plus some without the use of extra gear...I actually have an excellent clean tone on my triple rec also... no mods just recapped and tubed it...

but it is all on what your ears hear..everyone will think differently

 

[Elixir]

unless you had a maximizer in the loop

:shock:

oh wow
:lol: