Mark V effects loop

[rispsira]

Hi everyone,
ive been waiting for so loooong for the mark V to get here and im getting it next week probably or beggining of the one after hopefully.

My friend though who lives in Cnada says that there seem to be a problem with the mark V loop which seems to be like those of the dual and triple rectos that he hated but in series (it also has a volume level). He tried it with his processor and there was thinning of the tone or like some kind of phaser..

Have you guys been experiencing this problem? if not i should try to figure this out with him if its some type of issue with the processor (TC) before he decides to have some kind of mod on the loop.

So i was just curious if you guys are having problems with the V's loop as i cannot help him now until i get the heads

Thanks!

 

[Supreeth]

Hey man!! Congratulations on getting the the Mark V!! As to the question regarding loops, I haven't had any big issues at all. There definitely was some tone alteration (not tone sucking) going on when I put in a TC Nova Delay in the loop. With analog pedals with true bypass in there, I definitely got a more darker sounding tone, but that worked for me since I prefer a darker sounding tone. If the tone is sounding thin, then it most likely has to do with level setting/matching between the Mark V loop send and the processor. I cannot speak for the TC MFX processors since I haven't ever owned one, but I'm sure others will chime in. I have tried many processors with the mark V, and the only one which "just worked" perfectly was the Axe FX Ultra.

cheers,
Supreeth

 

[Mark Fore]

I run a Nova Delay through my Mark V loop (loop level straight up at 12 o'clock) and it sounds absolutely fine. Make sure you calibrate the Nova input levels with that clever feature in the pedal. From there you can switch the FX loop in and out and judge for yourself. I do not notice any tone alteration or suckage.

 

[Supreeth]

I run a Nova Delay through my Mark V loop (loop level straight up at 12 o'clock) and it sounds absolutely fine. Make sure you calibrate the Nova input levels with that clever feature in the pedal. From there you can switch the FX loop in and out and judge for yourself. I do not notice any tone alteration or suckage.

I forgot to mention the calibration feature in my first post. My bad. I calibrated the Nova delay first. I did however find the tone being altered in the effects loop, but that may have been because of the type of modulation in use with the Nova delay. I think we both went from the T-Rex Replica to the Nova Delay, right? Unfortunately I didn't like the Nova delay too much either, and finally settled on the Axe-FX Ultra. I'm glad the Nova delay is working out for you!

cheers,
Supreeth

 

[Mark Fore]

Yo Supreeth! Ha, you remember everything! Yeah, I still have the T-Rex Replica, and I use it with another Mark IV with no other effects. It is a great pedal, but that Nova is a little better in my opinion for the flexability and I think it sounds little better to my ears. The T-Rex is more subtle and warm, but the Nova I like more.

Neither of them remotely compare to the Axe-FX Ultra. That thing is at the top of the heap.

 

[Supreeth]

Yo Supreeth! Ha, you remember everything! Yeah, I still have the T-Rex Replica, and I use it with another Mark IV with no other effects. It is a great pedal, but that Nova is a little better in my opinion for the flexability and I think it sounds little better to my ears. The T-Rex is more subtle and warm, but the Nova I like more.

Neither of them remotely compare to the Axe-FX Ultra. That thing is at the top of the heap.

I love that 1x15 (or is it a 1x18?) cabinet on which your Mark V rests on! I had a similar setup with a 2x12 recto horizontal cab and a 1x12 sitting on top of it! The Replica is a great pedal but way too limited for the price point IMHO. The Nova flat out beats the Replica in flexibility, and you also get more options (I love the reverse delay feature) that you wouldn't with the Replica. I still have the Replica too but it will probably go soon. The Axe-Fx is a beast, and the first MFX processor I've really liked. I was scared at first when I saw the huge knob in front for dialin tones (brought back not so good memories of the G-Major type processors and those flimsy knobs) but the UI is very intuitive. It made it easier to take the leap of faith with the AFX because Cliff, the owner/primary creator/designer of AFX was/has been a Boogie player for many many years and the customer service/help/firmware upgrades are the best. The AFX has probably made double the firmware upgrades (with new amps, better effects etc) in the past year than line 6 has in a lifetime!

Back to the spirit of this thread though, it is important to set the Send level on the Mark V to noon and work from there. I've found that I get the best sounding tones there. I don't know if the TC processors also have a calibration feature like the Nova pedals but that might be a good thing to check first. If the send level has to be increased significantly to get the same level of volume as the FXL bypassed then I would suspect that calibration will be needed. I don't think the FXL needs modding, but there's also the slight off-chance that the FXL in this particular amp might be at fault.

cheers,
Supreeth

 

[rispsira]

Thanks for the answer guys! Supreeth how are you bro?? Its Dr. Canada! thats having that issue with his Gsystem, he said he might need to make a mod on the loop somehow because it reminded him of that of the rectifiers but in serial (so befor ethey made the mods to the rectos)

If you guys are doing fine with the loop then maybe its a volume calibration problem and we should try focusing on that?
I know that the Gsystem cabn be a pain to configure but i dont want our bro to make a mod on the mark V that hell regret later!

Anyways Supreeth im glad youre liking the AFX ive only heard the greatest things about that unit!!!

Later guys!

 

[Supreeth]

Hey Sary!! I'm doing good bro. How about you? I think Dr. Canada's issue might be the G-System but dunno, it may be the loop as well. I would definitely tell him to put off any thoughts of modding it at least till he's sure of what's causing the problem. I saw his post on the Triaxis forum just a few minutes ago and I'll reply to that. Hopefully he doesn't have to mod it!! I would definitely focus more on level setting at this stage.

cheers,
Supreeth

 

[Mark Fore]

On the G-System you have to manually adjust the input levels. If you are just going by the manual from TC you aren't getting the full story. You have to log on the TC forum and get the White Paper from a guy named Laird Williams. He hangs out there a lot and took the time to write his own manual that explains the 99% of what you need to know that isn't covered in the TC manual.

You should be fine after that. The Nova pedals are the only ones with the automatic input level calibration feature. It is manual on the G-System.

 

[cbardbg]

My friend though who lives in Cnada says that there seem to be a problem with the mark V loop which seems to be like those of the dual and triple rectos that he hated but in series (it also has a volume level). He tried it with his processor and there was thinning of the tone or like some kind of phaser..

Have you guys been experiencing this problem?
Thanks!

I experienced that same problem. For me it only happened when using instrument level effects and only when the volume was set very low (<8 o' clock). Using either line level device or raising the output to 9 o'clock on instrument devices made the issue go away.

 

[MusicManJP6]

I'm selling my GT-8 to get a Nova Delay. I'm glad to read that it seems to be a good match for the Mark V. I love delay more than any other effect and found I only used it on the GT-8 hooked up via 4CM. I've got a DD-3 hooked up in the loop right now sitting on top of the amp with 1' patch cables. Sounds pretty good, but the Nova Delay is more transparent - which is what I'm after.

 

[rispsira]

Hey guys! thanks a lot for all the answers! i did tell him about Lairds paper though! i dono if he had time to read it but i told him to try the way i connect the Gsystem whioch is different and works well. Anyway it just occured to me that he has three mark IVs so he should try it on them and if he has the same problem then for sure it will be a Gsystem configuration problem!

Dr. Canada is a good friend of mine so i dont want him to screw up his MArk V because of the gsystem knowing that this unit is and has been such a pain for people to configure that a lot of them just sold it! (it was easy for me because of how i hoolk it up though)

Thanks again guys!