I picked up a Mark V 35. Here are my thoughts after a couple of weeks with it. I've made a few edits since the original post here, just to capture additional thoughts and findings.
I wanted to love it but I don't, at least so far. It's versatile in terms of being able to pull out a lot of different sounds. But seems less versatile in terms of footswitching between those sounds. In other words, it seems like it would be great in the studio but less great on stage. Since I want it for gigging small/medium clubs, not sure it's the "one".
PROs
- Of course, high quality build
- Great power targets 10/25/35. I'd rather see 5/20/35 but ya know...whatever on that.
- Sounds dumb but the style of knobs used on Mark series are MUCH more visible than rectifier knobs because they are easy to see the position of. My favorite amp knobs are still the fender knobs that are numbered. I can set up my fender settings in like 5 seconds at a gig. The mesa line I have to "think about" and the rectifier I can hardly see anyway LOL
- Relatively smaller and lighter than a full size amp
- Nice clean, fat, crunch channel. I like all these voicings a lot.
- Has dual solo boost volume level controls
- Has footswitchable EQ
- CabClone DI is a nice addition that is not on the Mark V. More on that below.
CONs (now in priority order, most disappointing first)
- Clean & Crunch on the same channel (slapping hand against forehead :evil: )
- Really wish this had 3 channels like the Mark V. I get the smaller size was desireable, but I'd rather have a larger amp size & 3rd channel with 10/25/35W power
- Reverb not footswitchable. I could probably live with it but it is bugging me some.
- Two different buttons for the two different solo boosts. Couldn't they have just had 1 switch control the solo boost of whatever channel is selected? I might get used to this but it is weird if you are using both channels on a song and then have to think about which solo button to hit. At least so far it is.
- Effects loop not footswitchable. Probably can correct this with a $50 loop switch but don't think I should need to for an amp in this price range.
- The reverb sounds a bit sterile. I'm used to a Fender Deluxe Reverb, which can be lush. After a couple weeks I'm starting to get used to the Mesa reverb though. It's not terrible. Fender sounds better though. But it's not bad...
- This goes at the bottom because it doesn't affect the sound. It comes with a very cheap canvas cover with no padding, instead of a padded gig bag. There are no pockets for the footswitch, footswitch cable, or power cord, and since it is just a dust cover with no bottom, it provides little to no protection when hauling it to a gig. Even a mini-rectifier has a fully enclosed gig bag that is padded, and 3 pockets for the footswitch and cables. I'm putting this at the bottom of the list because you can always go buy a custom padded gig bag with pockets...it's about $200 for this amp. Or a padded cover only is about $50 retail.
I considered exchanging for an express 5:50+ head, but I don't think I want the 50W power. I like the 2nd channel of the 5:50+ better than the Mark flavored drive channels of the V:35. (yeah I know then why buy the Mark X amp - answer is features/usability.) And it has footswitchable channel, reverb, EQ, Solo. But still lacks a footswitched loop. But after trying my friend's 5:50+, side by side with the V:35, I decided that it's a nice amp but didn't quite do it for me either.
I don't like the 2nd channel of the V:35 much. It's probably great if you're a metal head, but I'm more a blues & classic rock guy. I thought I would like the Mark channels and I probably will for some of my classic rock but as someone else said it seemed like it lacked warmth. To me it was almost too gainy. I got a sound I liked pretty well after back the gain WAY back (to like 8:30) so maybe that is workable. I probably need to just keep working the controls to find the tones, but I just really like the "vintage" channel of a mini-rectifier (and presumably rectifier) better than any of these sounds.
I did try the Cab Clone out a little bit by plugging an XLR directly from the amp to a QSC K12. It was a bit more sterile/less lively than the amp through a C90. It reminded me a little of the was a Boss GT100 took the life out of my signal long ago before I went back to discrete pedals. But I think in a studio they could EQ to get some of it back (actually and so did I with the EQ of the amp and the Bass, Mid, Treble and presence controls. This all sounds negative but in another way, I actually really liked it. It provided a nice way to take the signal down to a much lower level and that was really easy on the ears. It was also midnight when I was messing with this. I didn't notice any difference between 10W and 25W at all in cab clone with guitar speaker off. But I did notice a beefier and slightly louder sound when I switched the channels to 35W, and was playing only through the cabclone. So I think I might actually like the cabclone for low volume practice. Although another option is to play in 10W mode and/or to switch to a smaller (i.e. 10") speaker that pushes less air. (In fact I formerly played my mini rectifier in 10W mode with an 8" eminence 820H...worked ok.
For speakers -- I don't like the V30's and surprisingly really rather disliked the C90 - that surprised me, especially since the C90 is what they put in the combo version. What I liked a lot more was Celestion Creamback 65's, or Eminence GB128's which sounded really good. The GB128 sounded more like what I thought the C90 would, surprisingly. I really like the C90 with the drive channel of a mini rectifier which surprised me on that amp too. Just goes to show that even if you test a boatload of speakers and find what you like, if you change amps, you kind of have to repeat the process. I digress.
I'm tempted to move to the Mark 5, I'm just concerned that I'm going to be always feeling like I can't turn it up enough to "get into the tubes". I don't want to use an attenuator. In fact I just sold 3 of them and some of my other amps before I bought the V:35. The price difference doesn't bother me too much, though I would probably buy used, pretty new, and mint to save some $.
I'm not sure why Mesa and others don't build a 3 channel amp with all the features of the higher end amps, but not as much power. I think that is really what most non-professional, gigging musicians would love, but maybe I'm wrong. There have been so many Mesa amps that I looked at and said...I'd buy it but it's 100 or 120 or 150 watts. Even when they are switchable down to 50, that's still a lot of power in small venues and especially for hours of home practice. For the love of pete give us a 30 or 35 watt mode with the big full featured 3 or 4 channel preamp. The 10W option on the Mark V is, I'm sure pretty good for home, especially if paired with a smaller speaker.
I'm starting to think I'm going to have to commission a custom boutique build to get what I want:
- 3 channels (or 4) (Clean/Fat/Crunch) / (Crunch/Blues/Vintage) / (Modern/Mark-XX/MarkXX) or something along those lines. or even put the vintage on channel 3 so I could do cleans, crunch, and vintage. that would be the bomb. Perhaps a mid size roadking or roadster??
- Power switchable in the 5-10/20-25/35 options.
- Reverb controllable per channel and footswitchable
- Footswitchable effects loop
- Footswitchable EQ
- Clean and Crunch available on two different channels
We can name this dream amp the Marktifier:335 with 3 channels, the lower power of the V:35, the knobs and layout of a Mark V, an 8 button footswitch like the Mark V footswitching, Cabclone, the first two channels of the Mark V, and the Raw/Vintage/Modern voicings of a rectifier on channel 3 instead of the multiple "mark" voicings. (Anybody know a custom builder who can copy the circuits and build this amp? yeah yeah...patent shmatent. Mesa needs a custom build shop.
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I could actually be pretty happy with a 3 channel rectifier if they made a 3 channel "mini" or medium. Again same issue of power on the full size rectifiers though, and those are also full width heads that don't sit on a vertical 2x12 which is my preferred gigging cab. i don't think I'll ever use a 4x12. What a pain.
OK someone with a Mark V or a Roadking, tell me why that's all I really need. (And as you can see below, a few have!)
That's a long post but hopefully useful to future viewers.