Mark IV Rhy2 channel + TS9 = tone heaven!

[holdsworth]

I changed all of my amp settings today and came up with a spectacular revelation; the Mark IVs rhy2 channel sounds better than the lead channel for leads!

I was jamming along to the jazz fusion station ("fusiongroove") playing through the lead channel, when I swapped to rhy2 and stomped on my Baked TS9, added a bit of delay, and rolled off some tone on my bridge pickup. Wham! I was in tone heaven, the best I've ever heard from a Mark! It was the richest, smoothest, most desirable fusion lead tone I had ever heard, with oodles of sustain! I could easily play a metal solo with the amount of sustain and girth it had.

So this is a striking revelation for me, as I've always thought of the lead channel on the Mark IV to be the be-all-and-end-all of boogie lead tones. rhy2 channel + Keeley TS9 is unbelievable, I implore you to try it for yourself!

 

[welshboogie]

Whoa, it must be this glorious weather we're having in the UK - I tried a Zakk Wylde O/D through my MKIV on R2 last night and I have also come to the conclusion that it sounds better than the lead channel.

Spooky!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

[rockhound76s]

Agreed. I really like a tubescreamer-style OD on Rhy 2 as well.

I use a Visual Sound Route 66 pedal on R2. It's a tubescreamer based circuit with a bass boost switch which is great for filling in some bottom end (especially w/single coils).

I still love my LEAD channel for hard rock/metal, but the OD on R2 really adds MORE versatility to an already versatile amp.

 

[psychodave]

Two R2 clips with a Tube screamer.

http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/psychodavee/?action=view&current=LP1.flv

http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/psychodavee/?action=view&current=LP1a.flv

Lead channel…so you cna hear the difference. The TS-9 is off.

http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/psychodavee/?action=view&current=LP2.flv

 

[fpoon]

Cool man I got to try it. Is it plugged into your FX Loop?

 

[billyg121]

could you describe your settings on the ts and on the rhy 2 channel?

 

[MusicManJP6]

I've noticed this too. Rhythm 2 LOVES a good distortion/overdrive pedal. It also loves modelers with the cab sim turned off. ROCK!!!

 

[Blueracer]

Thanks for the post and the clips. You guys just gave me the excuss I was looking for to get a TS-9. Same question as has already been asked. Settings and is it through the fx loop or the input. Thanks for any help.

 

[Finnster]

Psychodave...that rocked! Great chops.

What are your R2 settings?

 

[WillPlayForFood]

I kinda feel as though this has been my little secret weapon for some time. I had been using my original TS 808, now using the Keeley TS 808, for my leads on either channel. IME, Rhythm 2 loves a little tube screamer and actually, so does the Lead channel.

I have actually been using the EQ to regulate volume. EQ in for rhythm tones and I simply take out the EQ (volume boost+EQ shift) and kick in the TS 808 for leads. Sometimes I also switch the ClassA/Simul. I love the ability to switch between ClassA/Simul. It shifts the tone, adds some volume, and can give you an added punch for leads. It is all via midi. The Rockman midi octopus has been a integral part of my rig for 15 years. Love those little buggers I am running a TC G System now, and still use the octopus to facilitate the channel and other switching on the Mark IV's.

Anyway, sweet clips there psychodave. I have been playing a EBMM JP6 and a PRS Custom 24 through my rig, yet I like the Les Paul tone you get from your combo as well 8) Keep up the experimenting...I don't think the Mark IV will ever let us get bored :wink:

 

[stonedkirby]

i want a mesa mk IV...searching for the right one is taking me so long

 

[psychodave]

Psychodave...that rocked! Great chops.

What are your R2 settings?

Here are the settings I use. Thanks to a friend named Gainfreak... 8)

 

[Tuna141]

Dave,
Funny, your settings are almost identical to mine . I'm presently playing through it with a 3-pickup Tele w/Lace Sensors.
My EQ is slightly lower and less of a V, though. I normally play with the EQ off, and flip in on periodically for a more cutting tone - great for cutting leads and for a slight tone variation.

Nice clips, btw.

 

[Zoner]

I'm not using this rig and have no idea what the settings are, but I can't imagine running a TS through the effects loop is ever going to be a good idea. Best to dump the gain into the front end rather than at the end of the tone-shaping preamp and E.Q. to avoid a lot of extra noise. That said, if anyone is running a dirt box through their loop and digging it, rock on! Z

 

[holdsworth]

^

Who said anything about putting it in the fx loop?

 

[eltrain858]

Is it plugged into your FX Loop?

is it through the fx loop or the input

they did

 

[Vigo1999]

This is an example of a Barber DD through a MkIII R2 pushed.

sorry for the playing and please note that it was a rehearsal ok? and yes, if you wanna bash your friend down here, my solo spot is the 2nd one . . . 8)

http://www.soundclick.com/updateband/songInfo.cfm?bandID=688649&songID=5666935

 

[holdsworth]

I attempted to get the same tone I described when I nailed my perfect Mark tone that night. Like the Mark IV, I think I got 98% there!

 

[NuSkoolTone]

Two R2 clips with a Tube screamer.

http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/psychodavee/?action=view&current=LP1.flv

http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/psychodavee/?action=view&current=LP1a.flv

Lead channel…so you cna hear the difference. The TS-9 is off.

http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/psychodavee/?action=view&current=LP2.flv

GREAT Clips man!

Question: What are your TS-9 settings? Are you using it more as a boost or adding some dirt?

I'm finding you don't really need pedals with the Mark IV in comparison to other amps, though it DOES seem picky about what pedals it likes on the front end.

 

[atonal]

Agreed. Rhy II channel + TS-9 sounds really good!