Mark IV FX Loop and buffers

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dolinja

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Hi all, I've got a Mark IVb medium head that I bought used last year. Its an early B, I think around 1993, but seems to be in great shape. I've been building a rig around this amp as a hobby for the last year and have run into some odd behavior regarding buffers and the FX Loop.

I'm running a Gmajor in the loop along w/ a chorus pedal (either a Boss CE2, CH1 or Corona, whichever suits me that week). All of those effects are switched by a GCX.

The issue is that each of those chorus pedals has a built in buffer. Since they are switched in and out with a true bypass GCX loop, when they are off, the buffer isn't in the chain. When the loop comes on, I get a huge volume boost (specifically, for the BOSS pedals I get the boost when the loop switches on even if the pedal isn't engaged because those aren't true bypass. The corona chorus is is switchable from true-bypass to always buffered, but that doesn't matter here).

So, I can solve the problem by always including a buffer in the FX Loop, by inserting the GCX buffer as the first element in the loop before running to the GCX loops. But should I even need to do this? The cable run from the Fx loop send up to the rack is about 3 feet max. The Mark IV loop itself is supposed to be buffered so it can even handle a 20 ft run out to a pedal board, right? Is it possible that the Mark IV buffer isn't working right? Is there are way to measure this?

Another thought is a bum cable between the Loop send to the GCX. I wired everything using Lava Solderless (soldered isn't an option for me), and when I switched from all my crappy store bough cables to these, these were a million times better. But maybe something is weak on that one cable...

Thanks, any help or ideas is appreciated!
 
dolinja said:
Hi all, I've got a Mark IVb medium head that I bought used last year. Its an early B, I think around 1993, but seems to be in great shape. I've been building a rig around this amp as a hobby for the last year and have run into some odd behavior regarding buffers and the FX Loop.

I'm running a Gmajor in the loop along w/ a chorus pedal (either a Boss CE2, CH1 or Corona, whichever suits me that week). All of those effects are switched by a GCX.


Thanks, any help or ideas is appreciated!
I posted a similar post regarding my IIc+. When I run anything through the pre/post the volume drops and it doesn't sound as rich. I had a MK IV for a short while but I don't remember if it had a real buffered effects loop in it or not.

I asked if anyone has tried an outboard unit such as a ceriatone but evidently know one has tried it.
Recently I bought a Brown Note Delite 44 with a built in buffered effects loop (in/out volume controls on the back). It has a handy loop bypass switch right on the front so I just bring up the volumes so that they are the same when I bypass the loop. It works great!!!! I'm assuming that the wiring for the MkIIC+ and the Brown Note are similar if not the same. I just don't want to plop down $250 for a tube driven outboard buffered effects loop if its not going to improve the Mesa's performance.
 

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