I've finally found the best tone with my single rectifier.

[wizardy]

Hi guys
I just want to let you know how did I get the best tone out of my single rectifier tubed with JJ 6l6gc
When I bought the amp off ebay, I plugged it straight into my roadking 4x12 cab. It sounded nice but the low-ends weren't tight enough
so I decide to add a maxon OD808 in front with those settings : drive 0 , volume max and tone around 9:00 with my peavey hp special ct and around 12-1:00 with my esp MII loaded with dimarzio x2n

The maxon gives a nice tight low-end to the amp but I just feel something was lacking when I was playing lead licks.
So I decide to add a Fulltone OCD After the Maxon OD808 with drive 0 , volume 3/4 and tone to 11:00 running at 18v on the HP setting.
Running both pedals in front of my single recto with gain at 12:00 on the amp , presence 9:00 , bass, mid and treble at 11:00 gave me a very nice marshally-mesa agressive tone.

Then, I bought the BB Preamp for my lead tone,
So when I'm playing lead licks, I kickin the BB Preamp with drive 0 , volume 13:00 and treble and bass 12:00 or desired. In my chain, The BB Preamp is after the OCD and the OD808 which are both always turned on.

I know it's a shame to run 3 overdrives in front of a 1400$ amp but that's the only way I found to get a tone I like from this amp.

My next purchase will be a Mesa Mark V without any overdrive in front..

 

[XevKai]

How much gain do you need? I use just the OCD and set the gain on my amp at about 11:30 and that is plenty for any type of metal. It seems like you're going for the dimebag solid state gain sound, which if you are that's cool but it's not what the amp was designed for.

 

[Mark Fore]

See, now this is intersting to me because I didn't get the idea that "more gain" is the goal here versus the tightness the pedals create. To run the pedals in this way might make sense as the gain is never dialed high... always at "0" and amp gain at noon. I can only use my Roadster with one of these pedals in the chain at all times set exactly like this, but I've never tried it with all three!! Since I have all of these pedals (no Maxon, but a Keeley TS-808), I'm going to try this tonight and see what happens. Thanks for posting your findings!

 

[wizardy]

How much gain do you need? I use just the OCD and set the gain on my amp at about 11:30 and that is plenty for any type of metal. It seems like you're going for the dimebag solid state gain sound, which if you are that's cool but it's not what the amp was designed for.

Using both pedals in front give me a nice gain tone at bedroom level
When I play with my band, i set the volume of my amp higher so I turn down the maxon od808 volume knob to desired gain.

If you turn on the volume and master on this amp, you won't need as much gain as you do at bedroom level. That's the idea..

 

[Cleekster]

@OP: what are your amp settings.....what kind of tone are you after?......

maybe you should be asking yourself if your playing the right amp?

 

[wizardy]

amp settings are
master and output as needed
presence 9:00
bass, middle and treble 11:00 (I crank a bit the mid if I play with my band)
gain : 11:30 to 12:00

The right amp for me might be the in Mark serie. or a Splawn Nitro or something tighter. but I like the tone of the rectifier.
Like many of us, I bought the rectifier without trying it before
But I found that with good overdrive pedals I can get a nice tone out of it.

All you need is to turn down the gain of the amp and get it from pedals and not from the amp itself. I think I'm not the only one to do that because, some great players prefer using pedals to get their signature sound like Steve Vai or Joe Satriani.

 

[moodyedge]

amp settings are
master and output as needed
presence 9:00
bass, middle and treble 11:00 (I crank a bit the mid if I play with my band)
gain : 11:30 to 12:00

The right amp for me might be the in Mark serie. or a Splawn Nitro or something tighter. but I like the tone of the rectifier.
Like many of us, I bought the rectifier without trying it before
But I found that with good overdrive pedals I can get a nice tone out of it.

All you need is to turn down the gain of the amp and get it from pedals and not from the amp itself. I think I'm not the only one to do that because, some great players prefer using pedals to get their signature sound like Steve Vai or Joe Satriani.

+1 to that on good players getting tone from pedals


add gary moore to that list


heres my gary moore "what pedals are these" post

http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=40527

how would yopu compare a mesa duel rectifier 3ch tone to a marshall? is a rectifier like a 80s modded marshall? I head that somewhere but wasnt sure if that was accurate. I want a blues warm tone from my duel rec aint aint found it yet...just got a maxnon od808 to help which has made it better but its still not as warm and soulfull as id like. more messing required i think. Ive only played it loud once which was last night at band practice and it seemed to sound much, much worse than it does at low bedroom volumes, more out of control as the eqs made it messy


theres my post on how to do that. I am trying to find out how still....

http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=40292


maybe some el34s are the way to go now after trying the boost pedal....im feeling a bit gutted that i just cant swicth it on twist a few knobs and get "THAT" dream tone im after on £3000 worth of gear. It does metal easy but im more of a rock blues guitarist so like having the option of any tone i feel like using...hence buying the duel rectifier head and cab (without trying one first)

you can really get all kinda of tones from one extreme to the other but i am yet to find one i really like that works for chord playing and solos...with using one channel on my orange its was always a compromise on the chords so a great bluesy solo sound

 

[wizardy]

Well. I did some test with JJ el34 with the same amp settings and same OD pedals but I didn't like the result on high notes.

For Rock and/or blues , I Just put the red channel on RAW or Vintage mode
instead of Modern
I keep my same pedal chain and same amp eq settings.
I get great result.

To my ears, this OD pedals combination/amp settings I've found is perfect for any style with the single rectifier. with roadking cab. (2xc90 + 2xv30)
I think the key of my tone is also the cab with both kind of speakers.

I'll try to record a demo next week and post it here.