IIC+ players...

[ndsquared]

any IIC+ players out there love them for something besides Metallica?
No disrespect intended...those boys ARE legend, I just mean ...I love the creamy goodness and smoothieosity of the grail for the lyrical quality of the voice...

any one else Eh?

 

[Shep]

Carlos santana, Steve lukether, john petrucci, brad gillis, plus more.

ow

plus me. ahah

 

[JOEY B.]

I've been biting my tongue for years about this issue. I have not been able to resist temptation as of late, though. Proceed at your own risk, there are a lot of Hetfield fans around here. I am with you 100% on the creamy goodness, by the way. 8)

 

[av8or3]

I just like the way mine sounds, period. As far as I'm concerned, I came first!
Jim

 

[lesterpaul]

count me in....a versatile amp INDEED...its my Dumble

 

[ndsquared]

I mean in NO WAY to disrespect the Metallica contribution, I was merely curious as to the other believers use of the grail...Lukather,Santana, and anyone else who rides the boogie!

 

[Elpelotero]

What's funny to me is that many of the guys using this amp for something besides Metallica end up using similar settings on the tone controls (not eq). Most guys still stick to the cranked treble, low bass, high volume theory.

 

[dodger916]

count me in....a versatile amp INDEED...its my Dumble

+1. By easing up bit on V1 (6-7), Treble (7-8) and Lead Drive (4-6), I can coax some tight but aggresive rhythm tones in the Lead channel. Stomp on a compressor or boost (or mid-focused eq) and the Lead channel sings like a milky laser!

 

[Platypus]

I set up my 60/100 C+ for a more heavy metal tone but not Metallica by any means, I actually have quite a bit of midrange in it

My simul C+ is a blues/clean machine. It can do anything.

 

[Boogiebabies]

Luke !!!!!

The Candy Man's tone is killer.

 

[ndsquared]

Aaaahhhh Luke...how about the solo on Roseanna...pure jizz!

 

[cremona]

I think it also has to alot do with kind of guitar player you are, I almost never play solo stuff, i just like boogie heavy crunch,and alwasy has.
To really get the Metallica sound , a C+ is only one piece of the puzzel , the alwasy used parametrical EQ`s in the loop wich is the key, and besides that The also play a surthen way.

If you want a c+ to play play classic metal heavy tunes, i think that many would end up with settings that are much like what metallica used but it dont sound the same.
Without the EQ in the loop (or james andhis crazy mic setups),

A marshall jcm2000 with a parametrical eq in the loop sounds more metallica wanna be then the C+ with metallica settings alone without the parametrical EQ.




IMO

 

[JOEY B.]

What's funny to me is that many of the guys using this amp for something besides Metallica end up using similar settings on the tone controls (not eq). Most guys still stick to the cranked treble, low bass, high volume theory.

That is the nature of the beast. My issue with the Metallica sound (notice that I didn't say tone) is that it has become a stereotype for the C+. The vintage Marshall and Fender guys sneer when the "Boogie C+" name is spoken in conversation. Little do they know that Randall Smith designed the Boogie to do whatever the end user desires. It is my personal quest to "open some eyes" (or ears) regarding the Mark IIC+.

 

[av8or3]

What's funny to me is that many of the guys using this amp for something besides Metallica end up using similar settings on the tone controls (not eq). Most guys still stick to the cranked treble, low bass, high volume theory.

That is the nature of the beast. My issue with the Metallica sound (notice that I didn't say tone) is that it has become a stereotype for the C+. The vintage Marshall and Fender guys sneer when the "Boogie C+" name is spoken in conversation. Little do they know that Randall Smith designed the Boogie to do whatever the end user desires. It is my personal quest to "open some eyes" (or ears) regarding the Mark IIC+.

By playing it........

Most of my friends that don't own or have no experience with these amps shy away from them at first,probably for the same reason I insist on playing thru mine. They have a "tone" in mind and will know how to dial it in on some other amp (that may or may not be available at the time). However I've watched as one after another begins to fancy the tone he's able to get out of one of my C+'s. I kind of co-sponser a weekly jam session and I always take one of my amps for all to use. Since the stage at this place is so small and the time is limited we can't always allow everyone who shows to bring/setup their own amp, so we set up 2 with pedal boards for those who use 'em and ask everyone to play thru what we have set up. When it's time for me to play I've started hearing "So I guess I don't get to play the Boogie?" from the other player who gets up with me. The correct answer is/will always be "No,sorry."
Better luck next time.
Jim

 

[lesterpaul]

Aaaahhhh Luke...how about the solo on Roseanna...pure jizz!

ahhh...love it! according to Luke, he was playing thru a fender Deluxe Reverb on this one

 

[IBA]

When it's time for me to play I've started hearing "So I guess I don't get to play the Boogie?" from the other player who gets up with me. The correct answer is/will always be "No,sorry."
Better luck next time.
Jim

Hehehehehe

Thats a good one! :lol:

 

[ndsquared]

I play a lot of Allman Bros (Liz Reed, Jessica, One Way Out, Blue Sky, Whipping Post, etc etc). Amongst many other tunes.
I wish there was a count for how many times I have been complimented on my tone.
I'm using a '78 Les Paul with T-tops into either a 60/100 C+ (originally a IIC now modded to a +) or a Simul C+, using cabs with EV 12L speakers. (Sometimes a cab with an MS-12 mixed in.)

So no Mettalica get's played by me ever!

I have borrowed a friends '65 Deluxe Reverb and A/B'd it with both C+'s (going through the same speaker cabs too in order to get as direct a tonal comparison as possible).
They are VERY similar tonally.
Overall relative to each other the Deluxe Reverb is "looser" than the C+ which I'd describe as "tighter".
Reverb in the Deluxe can be pretty intense if you want it to be. But my reverb settings on the C+ are not all that intense. I can easily get the same amount of reverb on the Deluxe.

What I also get told at various jams I attend is that the C+ cuts through the mix really well.
The amazing thing about this is that everything else is mic'd and the C+ is not mic'd yet it STILL cuts through!

great post, I'm a huge Allman Bros fan..eat a peach was a revelation for me. I also have the + for the singing, full,500 piound violin sound...I used to play in the Alameda Allstars which had Brad Gillis and Danny Chauncey as Alumni and I always coveted their tone!

I've never played thru a 65 Deluxe Reverb, but I'm amazed that one produced the amazing tone on Roseanna!

I'm looking foiward to my IIC coming home as a II 8) C+!

 

[Philhouse]

Revived old thread I know..

Is there any truth to Satch using a IIC+ on the 'Flying in a Blue Dream' CD ?
I recall hearing it mentioned years ago, and also an interview in Guitar FTPM at the time it was released, where he said he used a Boogie amongst other amps.

I *think* I can hear it on Flying..., One Big Rush, Big Bad Moon ( Rhythm Gtr ) and a few others. It sounds very similar to me to a IIC+ sound. Nice sweet smooth tones. I think some of his lead tones were using a DS-1 into a cleaner amp, or perhaps a Marshall, but the main Rhythm tone on the album sounds in the IIC+ ballpark, to me.

Maybe I'm wrong, but hey :?: . I'm no Boogie guru, what else could it have been at that time ? (88-89)

Am I smoking Meth here ?

Cheers,

Phil.

 

[boogieslayer]

That is the nature of the beast. My issue with the Metallica sound (notice that I didn't say tone) is that it has become a stereotype for the C+. The vintage Marshall and Fender guys sneer when the "Boogie C+" name is spoken in conversation. Little do they know that Randall Smith designed the Boogie to do whatever the end user desires. It is my personal quest to "open some eyes" (or ears) regarding the Mark IIC+.

lol let em sneer its just jealousy of a kick *** and very versatile amp !

thats not to take away from Marshall amps...personally i love them and fender well...i dont get really excited about a fender unless its over 40 years old

 

[Devnor]

It's a wonderful classic rock amp...the AC/DC & Priest tones I get out of the thing are awesome although a bit Boogie flavored. Love the clean channel in mine - I never hear people talk about that. And of course it kills at the Metallica & Petrucci tones. Plus it can do all of this without blowing out my ears like some other amps.