I have just had an epiphany

[Neptical]

I would hang onto the beast. The III can keep up with just about any amp out there today. I would experiment with different tubes. Doing just that can change it into a whole new amp. What kind of tones are you looking for these days that makes you want to get rid of it?

~Nep~

More modern metal tones. This amp does the thrash great. But i want a nice and shiny, new amp, with seperate eq's and switching on the fly. I will get another one some day, I just want something different for now. I plan on getting a VHT Pittbull Ultra Lead or CLX. So guys, is it a simul class or not? I wish I could know before I sell it.

Like I said my friend, experimenting with this amp brings it into new territory. These IIIs are just as 'tight' sounding against anything on the market today..but alas, I know the feeling of wanting that new shiny amp. If your going down the VHT Pittbull Ultra Lead route type of tone, I'd throw down the cash for an ENGL Fireball. I think that amp is way tighter then the VHT PUL and more clarity/definition in the notes when playing high gain metal.

~Nep~

ps- Didn't realize you were that young kat with the few 'Tube videos. I came across your channel one day just looking around the 'Tube at Mark IIIs some time back. Keep up the playin' my friend. :wink:

 

[MrMarkIII]

99.999 % probability it is Simul-Class. Every wide chassis head I've ever seen has the Simul-Class switch on the front panel, mis-labeled as Full/Half Power.
No @#$% idea why.
There's no switch on the rear panel because it's a wide chassis. It's wide so it will look cool on top of a 4 x 12 cab, and it has four switches and eight knobs on the front panel. The reverb knob is put on the front. Rarely, the presence control, if it was ordered that way.
The smaller heads, which fit the 1 x 12" Thiele cabs, have seven knobs and usually three switches, unless there's no Graphic EQ. Then there's room for the fourth switch.

 

[CoG]

Toobz, what VHT/Fryette players are you listening to? I was really keen on these for a while because I liked what Aaron and Mike from ISIS were doing with their ULs live, but when I tried one it really didn't suit me. All the ULs are *really* modern-sounding amps in the sense that they are very 'clear', kind of scooped with a big mean low end and a lot of the high-end distortion that some people call fizz (amps didn't do that in 1975, so some people don't like it... lol). They're really good chunking behind a vocalist but high-gain leads... ehhhh... The cleans and mid-gain sounds are also really nice but very very dry, you gotta really like how your guitar sounds. Fortunately VHT/Fryettes seem to take fx a lot better than many other high-gain amps.

Now, if I remember you're still in high school, right? so less money is good? If you are really only looking to do gain and are not worried about your cleans, you might consider as a cheaper option a Recto with EL34s and an overdrive. Anybody who can't make that tight and heavy needs some lessons on playing rhythm.

Also, be sure try a 6505+ some day, the cleans are not too bad and boy, can they bring the heavy.

 

[Skyless7620]

Like I said my friend, experimenting with this amp brings it into new territory. These IIIs are just as 'tight' sounding against anything on the market today..but alas, I know the feeling of wanting that new shiny amp. If your going down the VHT Pittbull Ultra Lead route type of tone, I'd throw down the cash for an ENGL Fireball. I think that amp is way tighter then the VHT PUL and more clarity/definition in the notes when playing high gain metal.

Different strokes for different folks I guess, when I put an Invader against my Mark III it sounded digital and unresponive in comparison. IMO the Invader is a 4 channel amp with 2 usable channels; Clean and Crunch. Then again, that's how I feel about ENGL heads in general. I'd be hard pressed to believe that theyare tighter than the Pittbulls; VHT make some of the tightest amps around. my .02c

 

[Neptical]

Like I said my friend, experimenting with this amp brings it into new territory. These IIIs are just as 'tight' sounding against anything on the market today..but alas, I know the feeling of wanting that new shiny amp. If your going down the VHT Pittbull Ultra Lead route type of tone, I'd throw down the cash for an ENGL Fireball. I think that amp is way tighter then the VHT PUL and more clarity/definition in the notes when playing high gain metal.

Different strokes for different folks I guess, when I put an Invader against my Mark III it sounded digital and unresponive in comparison. IMO the Invader is a 4 channel amp with 2 usable channels; Clean and Crunch. Then again, that's how I feel about ENGL heads in general. I'd be hard pressed to believe that theyare tighter than the Pittbulls; VHT make some of the tightest amps around. my .02c

Yeah, man..that's cool. The VHTs just sound more woofy to me. Newer gear these days all together just doesn't really cut it for me anyways, so moot point. There's very few that even begin to get me excited. Listening to alot of the newer tones around me though I'll still throw down some recommendations to the folks looking for some help.

~Nep~

 

[xT00BZRG00Dx]

I would hang onto the beast. The III can keep up with just about any amp out there today. I would experiment with different tubes. Doing just that can change it into a whole new amp. What kind of tones are you looking for these days that makes you want to get rid of it?

~Nep~

More modern metal tones. This amp does the thrash great. But i want a nice and shiny, new amp, with seperate eq's and switching on the fly. I will get another one some day, I just want something different for now. I plan on getting a VHT Pittbull Ultra Lead or CLX. So guys, is it a simul class or not? I wish I could know before I sell it.

Like I said my friend, experimenting with this amp brings it into new territory. These IIIs are just as 'tight' sounding against anything on the market today..but alas, I know the feeling of wanting that new shiny amp. If your going down the VHT Pittbull Ultra Lead route type of tone, I'd throw down the cash for an ENGL Fireball. I think that amp is way tighter then the VHT PUL and more clarity/definition in the notes when playing high gain metal.

~Nep~

ps- Didn't realize you were that young kat with the few 'Tube videos. I came across your channel one day just looking around the 'Tube at Mark IIIs some time back. Keep up the playin' my friend. :wink:

Well, I'll try out a uL first to see if i like it better, if i do, i'll get one. Thanks btw.

99.999 % probability it is Simul-Class. Every wide chassis head I've ever seen has the Simul-Class switch on the front panel, mis-labeled as Full/Half Power.
No @#$% idea why.
There's no switch on the rear panel because it's a wide chassis. It's wide so it will look cool on top of a 4 x 12 cab, and it has four switches and eight knobs on the front panel. The reverb knob is put on the front. Rarely, the presence control, if it was ordered that way.
The smaller heads, which fit the 1 x 12" Thiele cabs, have seven knobs and usually three switches, unless there's no Graphic EQ. Then there's room for the fourth switch.

What would happen if i pul EL34's in there just to see if they worked, but it ends up that it wasn't a simul? Would my amp blow up?

Toobz, what VHT/Fryette players are you listening to? I was really keen on these for a while because I liked what Aaron and Mike from ISIS were doing with their ULs live, but when I tried one it really didn't suit me. All the ULs are *really* modern-sounding amps in the sense that they are very 'clear', kind of scooped with a big mean low end and a lot of the high-end distortion that some people call fizz (amps didn't do that in 1975, so some people don't like it... lol). They're really good chunking behind a vocalist but high-gain leads... ehhhh... The cleans and mid-gain sounds are also really nice but very very dry, you gotta really like how your guitar sounds. Fortunately VHT/Fryettes seem to take fx a lot better than many other high-gain amps.

Now, if I remember you're still in high school, right? so less money is good? If you are really only looking to do gain and are not worried about your cleans, you might consider as a cheaper option a Recto with EL34s and an overdrive. Anybody who can't make that tight and heavy needs some lessons on playing rhythm.

Also, be sure try a 6505+ some day, the cleans are not too bad and boy, can they bring the heavy.

Well, mostly from clips and reviews. I like how people call it tight as ****, extremly clear and articulate.... And I also like the versitality with the switching on the fly, which i don't get from my iii. With this, i'll be able to get nice jazzy cleans, a nice tight metal rhythm, and a nice lead all on the fly with the press of a footswitch, no more compensating.

 

[cremona]

BTW that wide head looks sweet :wink:

 

[screamingdaisy]

What would happen if i pul EL34's in there just to see if they worked, but it ends up that it wasn't a simul? Would my amp blow up?

The amp will function fine but the EL34s will run very cold.