here she is

[cremona]

Ever since i fell in love with James hetfields mark 2c+ crunch sound on the Justice album i have dreamt of one day having one.
Well that day is today, as i look back i can see that i all along wanted that Mark crunch sound, i have been playing through just about enything over the years, but never could seem to find what i was looking for.
Ii long ago let go of wanting that exact same mwtallica sound manyly because i dont play music the way metallica do, i like big open chords and dialed in for rytmen and not slo , but the basic sound i like it ultra heavy and dynamic with tonnes of feel.

Some years back i finaly plulled the tricker on a Quad pre, with a siumual 295 amp, that whent through two marshall 1960 cabs with V30`s , and a parametrical Eq, that setup was basicly the most amazing music machine i have ever heard, it could diffently nail the metallica tones but its was its inspiration to play that i fell in love with , i remember the guy the bourgt the amp, wheni play somthing for him he couldent say a word, never saw a more happy guitar kid when he carried it out the door.

But ironicly what that did to me was not to keep it instead i sold it because i knew i one day wanted the ONE i knew everything was pointing towards.

I know many will say that eny mark will do metallica crunch, and i somwhat agree but going through every mark2c+ or mark series sound i could find on youtube or here i would say i always like the c+ more , i blintested i abit by having all the clips on my ipod micro and everytime it was a c+ i liked the sound more then enything else i have heard
Now fast forvard 8 years, now im back in music again and i have a littel studio where il start recording some music.

THis mark 2 is a convert, and have the 100 transformer, i have to sit and stare at it till the first of december when i receive my marshall 1960 bv cab.

But i really hope that the 100 transformer dossent hold its potential back to much or that it sounds nothing like i have expected.


Have to admit that my hart is filled with nostalgi just looking at it even smelling it gives me goosspots with its about to unleasch,

What i really like santa to give me this christmas is a new head shell.

Stay tuned
nostalgi

 

[Silverwulf]

But i really hope that the 100 transformer dossent hold its potential back to much or that it sounds nothing like i have expected.

It won't. If you're after old Metallica crunch, you're gonna love the amp.

 

[cremona]

I have a divine feeling I will :wink:

Its a late model 2C that was send to mesa in 2006 and Mike B himself did the mod plus changing som other stuff.
I have read somwhere that thise very early IIc+ sounds best, becasue of its sligt simpler PC layout.
Mike B aparently spook warmly about this amp becaause the 100 really suited this paticular amp, (from what i understood).

My guitar im use for rytmen tracks are Esp eclipse with dual Emg 81`s.

When i first heard the quad at the seller it sounded pretty bad, it was through some horrible cabint and the sound was fussy , like there where mud in the speakers.

When i got i home i hooked it up to twin marshall 1960´s with Vintage 30s and i simply floored have much more awsome my playing sounded.


IMO if you want metallica sound , exact mettalica sound i mean then marshall 1960 are as much as part of the sound as the mk2c+ , ofcause the mesa variat sound pretty close, same goes for emgs.

The ironly of it all is that since Im not after copying jameses sound my 100 transfor version will maybe give me a more personal sound yet stilll have the same feeling.

 

[Elpelotero]

http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=32866&start=15

 

[cremona]

http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=32866&start=15

Thanks interresting. :wink:

Yes the eq has a huge responsibility for the scooped cruch tones of Jameses mark 2 sound.

With the quad a parametrical eq made it sound alot better IMO , but it a very personal tast thing.

I would never buy on of the old aphex eqs, i will rather buy a newish none digital none programable simple designed high kvality studio parametric eq with much better spec`s regards to noise.

Hmm i wonder if hetfield used export transformer mark 2`s

 

[Platypus]

cremona, if it helps you any, I have a 60/100 C+ with a 100 tranny and a Simul with a 105 tranny and I think the 100 nails the Metallica tone a lot easier and at lower volumes than the 105. Just my 0.02. If I want to play metal I'll go to my 60/100.

 

[cremona]

cremona, if it helps you any, I have a 60/100 C+ with a 100 tranny and a Simul with a 105 tranny and I think the 100 nails the Metallica tone a lot easier and at lower volumes than the 105. Just my 0.02. If I want to play metal I'll go to my 60/100.

I love you

So will my ever so patient nabours as i dont hve to play to loud to get it singing.


Hmm And justice for all were actually recorded in the part of copenhagen called amar , (Denmark ) wich is like 500 meters from where i liv.

I have a feeling that james brougt a export trani mark 2c+, as we run on 220 here .
Or he ofcause could have brougt a down converter.

 

[emperor_black]

Hmm And justice for all were actually recorded in the part of copenhagen called amar , (Denmark ) wich is like 500 meters from where i liv.

Hmm, according to this webpage, Justice for all was recorded in 'one on one' studio in Los Angeles.

http://metallica.wikia.com/wiki/...And_Justice_For_All_%28Studio_Album%29

 

[cremona]

Well why come the guide for james setting are done by by Fleming rasmussen at sweet silence studios i copenhagen ?.

I have a feeling that it was mixd in LA.

Maybe im wrong.

 

[emperor_black]

Yeah, no idea. I just did a quick google and it showed up as one on one. Who cares? You have THE amp to sound like them. Rock on Bro! :mrgreen:

 

[cremona]

cremona, if it helps you any, I have a 60/100 C+ with a 100 tranny and a Simul with a 105 tranny and I think the 100 nails the Metallica tone a lot easier and at lower volumes than the 105. Just my 0.02. If I want to play metal I'll go to my 60/100.

I find it very interresting exactly why you prefere the c-c+ amp for metal crunch ?

Thanks

 

[cremona]

Yeah, no idea. I just did a quick google and it showed up as one on one. Who cares? You have THE amp to sound like them. Rock on Bro! :mrgreen:

Exactly f... what somthing exactly sounded like its about the amps ability to inspire music and rifs , thats why i bourgt it, but honestly i admit i think that hands down think james crunch sound is just plain out awsome, as do many others

 

[Platypus]

cremona, if it helps you any, I have a 60/100 C+ with a 100 tranny and a Simul with a 105 tranny and I think the 100 nails the Metallica tone a lot easier and at lower volumes than the 105. Just my 0.02. If I want to play metal I'll go to my 60/100.

I find it very interresting exactly why you prefere the c-c+ amp for metal crunch ?

Thanks

I feel that the 60/100 gets to the metal crunch a bit earlier than the 105 at lower volumes and has a bit more shred to the tone. The 105 is smoother and more rounded.

 

[cremona]

HI all

Just got my step down converter, still havent received my new cab so no sound.

Thing powered up perfectly, and all tubes lit up,, there is just one thing the fan, it makesa alot of noise, there is nothing wrong with it just makes alot of noise is that normal ?.

It makes the same noise as the big ones you use when its to warm.

 

[cremona]

Hi

I looked at the fan and its not a mesa one, wich i diddent expect it to be.

The good thing is that its just a stock 120mm/25mm pc fan, I can allready found several supplyers that make super slient fans, dos enyone know what voltage output the fan wires on a 100p transformer 100w simual class mar2c+ head is ?

 

[DaveP]

Should be 110-117v. I know what you mean about the fans. They are very noisy. I just put together 2 headshells and decided to leave the fans out. They are front ported shells so there should be enough ventilation.
You can always unplug it for now.

 

[cremona]

Should be 110-117v. I know what you mean about the fans. They are very noisy. I just put together 2 headshells and decided to leave the fans out. They are front ported shells so there should be enough ventilation.
You can always unplug it for now.

Hi dave

No i mean in my head there goes a small wire out from the main transform (i think) that is plugged into a Pc type fan,

Im pretty sure that the voltage in that wire is less then 110.

I bourgt a 500w step don converter becasue we have 220 here, and it works it puts out stable 110 to the head.

If its only 12 volt in that wire i could buy a mordern super low noise fan and have no noise.

Right now the Fan is to loud to be used in my studio, im a bit worryed by not having it fanned. being around hifi tube gear for many years the one thing that kills the components is heat.

 

[DaveP]

The fan is plugged into a 110v socket on the side of the chassis by the transformer. Like the regular plug but without the ground lead.
Same voltage as the amp.

 

[cremona]

Hi dave

You are right, i measured it at 110 volt exactly.

I have browsed the internet and getting a 110 v 120mm fan is no problem, its just hard to fing the most silent one.

Its no warm in denmark , I wont be playing loud becasue this amp is for my studio.

Would you say that i shuld leave the fan disconnected ?


thanks

 

[DaveP]

Sure that would be fine as long as it has some breathing room as oppose to being stuffed in a closed rack. There are many amps that don't use fans, Bogner XTC, Fender etc... and they are fine.
It's hard to find a 110v fan that isn't noisy. I am going to try and find a PC fan that I can convert to 110 that's half the size. I can't belive they stuff that huge fan in these heads. No room to even change a tube. :shock:

This may work, http://www.quietpcusa.com/Converter-110V-AC-to-12V-DC-Power-Supply-with-Molex-4-pin-Connector-P376C1.aspx?UserID=7935748
It converts the 110v to 12v

then install one of these http://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp?sku=ixp-74-09