Help Dialing in "Rock" sounds...

[golfnguitarz]

Ok, well, I am no expert for sure. That is just the way the 2x12 slant and the Mark V sounded to me with the new V30s.

 

[Heritage Softail]

I don't find V30s have much in the way of treble or bass... well, not compared to a speaker like G12T-75, which has way more top and bottom end without a whole lot of midrange. I just find that the V30s seem to focus on the high mids, whereas I want a speaker that'll fill out the low mids.

An odd thing I have found as well. I have an old marshall combo, 2 x 12 G12T-75s in it. It does do rock a bit better. Same results with my Rivera Knuck. It likes the marshall box.

Have you tried the G12 100's?? I played a Diezel 4x12 with those. Great great tone. I was trying out the SLO I ended up buying using that cab and a few others. The old Marshalls are predictably good to my ears. That Diezel cab was really wide range and sounded clean but not harshly so. Who can really tell what colors tone that much but the G12 100's seemed pretty transparent to the tone. The damn cab was so expensive I decided to wait.

 

[sted]

Found it. It took coming at it with a fresh set of ears. I dialled in Mark 1 last night with the amp off, that way when I turned it on this morning it was the first thing I'd hear and thus my brain would concentrate on the sound of THAT channel instead of how it sounded compared to other channels.

I wound up finding the right zone on Mark 1 mode with the gain dialled way down (9:00). With an overwound PAF it sounds like it was mailed straight from the 70s. It's very thick sounding and it has an overdriven amp feel to it. I like it.

Channel 3 is now on Mark IV and dialled in to sound like a slightly gained up version of channel 2 with the bright off, then I kick over the bright switch to bring in more edge. It's pretty cool. I don't know if I have it perfect yet, but it's getting there. I want to experiment with duplicating Mark I using the Mark IIC+ mode and see how that compares to Mark IV.

Cool. For MK1 mode, Have you done the gain back a bit and ch volume way up and the global volume level as the MV? I tried that based on suggestions here. As the amp gets loud, I mean close to band practice loud, it seems like a blanket comes off the speaker enclosure. It changes gears and finds the higher frequencies. Unfortunately I have not been able to replicate this w/o the amp loud enough to get the power tubes hot.


Boogie likes to run hot.

Do you bypass the output volume when doing this mate? There is definitely something that happens to the amps when the channel masters are cranked though, tried it at the gig on sunday but just couldnt dial it in before we had to go on, no way can I run volumes that high at home to try and find out! :lol:

 

[Chester]

I don't find V30s have much in the way of treble or bass... well, not compared to a speaker like G12T-75, which has way more top and bottom end without a whole lot of midrange. I just find that the V30s seem to focus on the high mids, whereas I want a speaker that'll fill out the low mids.

Good point on the G12s - probably why MK1 mode works really well for me through a Marshall 4X12 Anniversary and 2X12 1936. Fills the midrange hole and complements the natural bass / trebble of the G12s

I have to dial out trebble and presence on any mode in Ch3, but not found my sound there yet. Still, 6 months fiddling on a Mesa to dial in 2 sounds is probably the norm ...