Have you ever A/B tested 3ch DR vs recto pre/2:100

[Chris_Lonerock]

Well
I had a recto pre few years ago (with a vht 2/50/2 power amp) and I never found the real recto sounding modern high gain)

Today I have a 3ch dual rectifer that I love and I wonder if the recto pre matched with 2:100 could do the trick for the modern high gain tone.

thanks for inputs
Chris

 

[soundpurist]

IMO the dual sound more bassy with endless gain. The recto pre/2:100 is more focused in mids perhaps you can put the channel master over the breakup point (with not too much gain) you'll get a very agressive,brutal attack and the bass increase so much that you have to reduce it at 9 o'clock.

With recto pre i prefer the master channel a little under the breakup point, with the a lot of gain then i increase the output for more power.

But why you look into recto pre if you have a dual? The only point here would be the clean channel but since i tried my recto pre with the 20/20 my clean doesn't look good anymore in the 2:100(it's not so bad at all, i guess i just have GAS everytime i try a new mesa...).

Personally i prefer the rectopre/2:100 to the dual but if you like the high gain sound stick with the dual. Hope this can help.

P.S. as i say to everybody...you can always go and try it at the store, you will have a better idea by testing with your own ears.

 

[Chris_Lonerock]

Thanks for your answer,

in fact, I already have a CAE 3+SE preamp (which is wonderful for cleans, crunchs and lead tones) and a mesa 2:90
and the 3ch DR for chunga-chunga modern high gain sounds.

the problem of the DR head is the fx loop, even moded to serial, it still bleeds, so it's not easy to use it as a power amp for the CAE pre.

My idea was to use CAE and Recto pre on 2:100, and save space (just 2 U spaces vs a 25kg head amp)

I recall that the clean tones were good with recto pre but the modern high gain tones lacks of low end... I used to use a BBE maximizer after to add basses and agressivity. but this was with a vht power amp, not the 2:100.

 

[soundpurist]

OMG! Your right on man, ask to SamHill, he got the same kind of setting CAE with the 2:100...yes in this case it won't be a bad idea at all. Try the the recto pre with the 2:100 as soon as possible! For my part i was going to sell my recto/2:100 for a roadking, just for being able to use the slave out for the wet section (eclipse and H8000) in a wet/dry/wet rig but now i'm looking into a soundsculpture switchblade(it can mix, route, trim or boost and split the signal at the same time! all that controlled by midi), the possibilities are endless with this.

 

[Chris_Lonerock]

Hi had the RK too and honestly, the slave out won't be an great issue for w/d/w
You'd save money by bying a line mixer as a CAE stereo dual mixer
it has a direct ouput to redirect the dry signal to PA or effects.
of course I guesse switchblade must be a cool thing.

I need to find someone that has both recto pre / 2:100 !!!

but I don't think the modern mode will be as great as the 3ch DR head.
You know when I was lookin for years for the amp (the one and only that could do the sound I hear in my head...)I had no idea, so when I tried a 3ch DR in a shop with my luke guitar I said WHOAHHH that is THE sound I was lookinf for.
But I have to recognize despite this sound that I love, this amp sucks (beacuse of the fx loop !!! I talked to John Suhr and I said If only you could make an OD100 with CAA clean and Dual recto modern high gain clone on CH3... he said that would be possible ... )

 

[soundpurist]

Yes i agree with you, i better like the sound from the head than the preamp version but i tried the slave out in the store, i tought it was good for the wet/dry system, maybe i should try more...

I talked to John Suhr and I said If only you could make an OD100 with CAA clean and Dual recto modern high gain clone on CH3... he said that would be possible ... )

:shock: If one day he makes one for you, tell him to make another one for me! :wink:

 

[soundpurist]

Check this out, he engage the modern mode on the 2:100 while he use the CAE! Maybe you could live without the recto pre...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9iWYu7XAqg0