G-Major or GT-10???

[MusicManJP6]

Best feature of the GT-10: the 38 second looper. It means you can tweak tones while the loop plays. And you will be spending a good bit of time tweaking, as the possibilities are truly endless. As are the menus. Just the EQ is mind-boggling. And get a decent pair of sunglasses - them LEDs is retina burners.

I find the LEDs so bright sometimes that I can't read the buttons label on a darker stage. Not a big deal but yea, bright.

TMB,

I suggest either making a new thread under the amps section where more people will probably see your question and be able to help or call Mesa and ask them. They've sent me drawings and helped me over the phone before with different issues. I've got a simple drawing showing how to do the mod on a DC series amp but it might not be the same for the Nomad.

Actually, its exactly the same. I've modded two RoVs, a Nomad 45, and a DC-3 and the process is exactly the same for all of them. There are three lugs/leads on the FX mix pot. If the front of the chassis is facing you then you just desolder the left lead and isolate (electrical tape is fine). Then desolder the right lead and solder it to the middle lug/lead and you're done.

 

[TMB]

Best feature of the GT-10: the 38 second looper. It means you can tweak tones while the loop plays. And you will be spending a good bit of time tweaking, as the possibilities are truly endless. As are the menus. Just the EQ is mind-boggling. And get a decent pair of sunglasses - them LEDs is retina burners.

I find the LEDs so bright sometimes that I can't read the buttons label on a darker stage. Not a big deal but yea, bright.

TMB,

I suggest either making a new thread under the amps section where more people will probably see your question and be able to help or call Mesa and ask them. They've sent me drawings and helped me over the phone before with different issues. I've got a simple drawing showing how to do the mod on a DC series amp but it might not be the same for the Nomad.

Actually, its exactly the same. I've modded two RoVs, a Nomad 45, and a DC-3 and the process is exactly the same for all of them. There are three lugs/leads on the FX mix pot. If the front of the chassis is facing you then you just desolder the left lead and isolate (electrical tape is fine). Then desolder the right lead and solder it to the middle lug/lead and you're done.

I was interfering a bit to much in this thread - sorry for it and thanks a lot for your given support. On Friday I'll start soldering

For the topic - I'm quite happy with the GT-10 and with the alternative software (open source) you can do anything you like. I've tried out line6 x3, digitech rp1000 before but they colored my tone to much

cheers,

Mark

 

[Laskyman]

really, I am still trying to figure out where the GT lacks.....sure, I wish the ODs were analog, and maybe another S/R and Amp control, but aside that- this is potentially the last floor based solution *I* will need.

 

[MusicManJP6]

really, I am still trying to figure out where the GT lacks.....sure, I wish the ODs were analog, and maybe another S/R and Amp control, but aside that- this is potentially the last floor based solution *I* will need.

Another amp control jack would be killer. Alas, I am selling my GT-8 to fund a Nova Delay. I only really use my GT-8 for channel switching, delay, volume pedal, and a little wah. If it could control all my Mark V's amp channels I'd keep it.

 

[Monsta-Tone]

:lol: :lol: Adam, you're a sick, sick man! :lol: :lol:


On the other hand, if I hadn't just committed to a couple of other things, I would gladly take your GT off your hands!

 

[MusicManJP6]

:lol: :lol: Adam, you're a sick, sick man! :lol: :lol:


On the other hand, if I hadn't just committed to a couple of other things, I would gladly take your GT off your hands!

sell, sell, sell!!!! :lol: If anything changes let me know. It's got to go!

 

[Monsta-Tone]

Does the GT have a Tap Tempo function? and, can it be assigned to CTL2?

If not, how easy is it to program the GT to control a Tap Tempo in a G-Major?
I guess I'm asking if the midi works like it should.


Also, it seems like every CC pedal I've ever had was a huge pain in the ***.
Does this one work well?
Can the sweep values be adjusted?
Is it easy to program?
Can it morph between 2 FX or 2 presets?



And......finally,
Is the delay on the G Major better than the delays on the GT?
Is anyone using both at the same time instead of the 4CM???


Sorry for all the questions. I live in the middle of nowhere and it is at least 200 miles to the nearest store where I could try one out.

 

[MJ Slaughter]

So many questions and I have so few answers. The GT does have tap tempo and you can assign it to any ctl you want. I've never used it's midi features before so can't help you there. Have you been to the http://bossgtcentral.com/forum/ site yet? A lot of knowledgeable people there. You ask if it's easy to program. Yes, once you can wrap your head around it it's much easier to understand and become creative. I think a mistake many new owners make is they try working with the stock patches and are apprehensive in diving into the guts of it. For me, I learned a lot by building patches from scratch one element at a time. That and the incredible amount of information on that forum.

What do you mean by "sweep values" and how do you want to "morph" between fx?

 

[Monsta-Tone]

Sweep value, I basically wanted to know what the sweep was if I was using a wah or other effect, like a Roto-Vibe. Can it be adjusted if there is not enough width or if I wanted to concentrate on a certain portion of the sweep. Like if I wanted to only use the middle portion of the available sound.

I'm thinking about morphing between presets, or maybe on one end of the CC pedal was a Chorus, and the other was a Flanger. Is it possible to assign the CC pedal to be able to move between these or put the pedal in the middle to get both effects?

 

[MusicManJP6]

Sweep value, I basically wanted to know what the sweep was if I was using a wah or other effect, like a Roto-Vibe. Can it be adjusted if there is not enough width or if I wanted to concentrate on a certain portion of the sweep. Like if I wanted to only use the middle portion of the available sound.

I'm thinking about morphing between presets, or maybe on one end of the CC pedal was a Chorus, and the other was a Flanger. Is it possible to assign the CC pedal to be able to move between these or put the pedal in the middle to get both effects?

You would have to use the assigns to achieve the crazy effect/pedal combination you are talking about. It's most likely possible, but you'd have to really mess with it and know how everything works. Assigns are the trickiest part of the GTs. The manual does not discuss them that well.

And, no, the GT's delays do not sound nearly as good as the G-Major's...

 

[Laskyman]

Assigns are the trickiest part of the GTs

really, its fairly simple...a little trial and error and ANYTHING is pretty much possible....

And, no, the GT's delays do not sound nearly as good as the G-Major's...

I will agree here- BUT, only you will notice, and only if you are really scrutinizing. Audience cant tell. Plus, the GT10 can do things with a delay that the G-Major (or Nova for that matter) can not- LIKE- looper, 3 delays at once, dual parallel delays, sound hold, putting delay ANYWHERE in the effect chain, etc..TC better sounding? Yes. TC as versatile? not even close...

for an ALL-IN-ONE-PEDAL-SOLUTION, GT is real hard to beat...

 

[Monsta-Tone]

I tried a GT-10 out at Grandma's Music yesterday. I didn't get very far though because some kid came into the amp room and had to be louder on a Line 6!
I think I used to be that kid 20 years ago??????

 

[Laskyman]

I can walk you through the set up if you end up getting one. I know I will always have a GT around.

 

[Monsta-Tone]

Thanks man! I will get one eventually, but right now, I have to find some work 1st.

I thought it sounded pretty good, what I heard of it anyway. I'll probably not use many of the distortion settings or preamps. Just looking for some great FX that are easy to program.

 

[Laskyman]

The amp models are fair at best, unless you process the hell out of them, but the drives are usable if you know what you want to hear....for effects though, it really is the best value to $$$ ratio on the market because of what it can accomplish in one box that is built like a tank. Other units may do "this" a little better, or "that" a little better, but I guarantee you they will not be as flexible as the GT series (and yes, that includes the mighty G-System from TC...try manipulating the effect chain, oh yeah, YOU CANT...).

 

[surferdeac]

You are making a comparison between apples and oranges here. Both are good in their own right, but both are different beasts. If i recall the OP stated that he was looking for a few good/transparent sounding effects. if these effects were along the lines of delays choruses and reverbs i would steer more towards "tc electronic products". I have owned Boss effects processing gear in the past (GT 5, a whole bunch of Boss pedals(reverb, chorus, delay, distortion pedals), and boss BR532 Digital studio (built in COSM effects)). For me playing with amp modeling gear is more of a novelty thing that i like to do in my recording studio, but playing at gig volumes i feel that an effects processor should focus more on being transparent sounding and complimenting your guitar amps tone. Both are Great products however. Like all good effects processors they require some tweaking to make them sound good and not so processed. Both can sound great when properly tweaked it just depends on application and what the hell your trying to accomplish . That being said, the Gt 10 is extremely versatile, (4cm, amp modeling etc etc.)

ITS ALL GOOD!!! :mrgreen:

 

[Monsta-Tone]

The G-Major is now $299 since the II is out.
So, $299 + $200 for a good midi pedal equals the same as $499 for the GT.

I don't really care about distortions or reverbs.
I just want chorus, compression, delays, etc.

 

[Laskyman]

I don't really care about distortions or reverbs.
I just want chorus, compression, delays, etc.

If you dont mind being handcuffed to effect order (comp in the loop, etc...)- the TC is a nice choice

GT allows you complete control of the effect chain, which is probably the greatest strength of the GT series, and truly trumps the competition....also, the TC is unable to match the abilities with delays because you can run up to 3 seperate delays, 2 of them parallel...before and/or after the preamp...as with nearly ANY effect.......
but not every player needs every option, YMMV....

 

[Monsta-Tone]

OK, so last question before my head explodes.....


Would you buy a new one or save $100 and get a used one?
Seems like free shipping and a 30 day return policy is almost worth $100. Plus the warranty.

 

[surferdeac]

TC is unable to match the abilities with delays because you can run up to 3 seperate delays, 2 of them parallel...before and/or after the preamp...as with nearly ANY effect.......
but not every player needs every option

versatility abilities true, but tc delays sound much better/transparent (less coloring of your tone) IMO than GT's (when just comparing time based effects that sound better to me in the loop anyway IMO), and if you are using effects in subtle ways than tc's are more pleasing sounding IMO. If you are trying to achieve a crazy type of delay effect than Gt's sound great as well. Again quantity/versatility vs. quality. The Nova delay and g system have some great delay sounds (more versatile than the g major) but the g major 2 has included some of the added sought after delay features (delay options that were largely added on based on user feedback from players of tc gear) that were incorporated into both of these two units which both came out after the g-major.