Fullstack & Noise issues help!!

[triple rectumfrier]

Hey friends, I played a show lastnight running a full stack for the first time. The show was in a little Veterans hall at a hardcore/straight edge show (think throwdown... :? hated the show and other bands didnt fit in with us...or maybe the other way around actually).

My issue was this...I play through a Triple Rectifier with Maxon OD808 in the front. I had an Oversized 4x12 mesa cab on the bottom and a Randall 4x12 on top. In my rack I have a 882i BBE SM, tuner, monster cable power conditioner, and Shure ULXP4 wireless.

Overall I have never had any noise issues because of the wireless. I play in a metalcore band and usually my tone's pretty good. Lastnight I have no idea how I sounded, the place was drowned out and terrible sounding, but I had to turn up LOUD and when I would walk by my stack with guitar volume ALL THE WAY DOWN it'd feedback a little, like a microphone in front of a PA.

Also they are both 8 Ohm mono cabs, so I plugged them both into the 4 Ohm outputs of the Triple (is this correct? :shock: ).

Any ideas on what could have caused the feedback and how to resolve this? Also I noticed that when the antenna on the wireless transmitter is tapped it makes a lot of noise. Any way of getting rid of this? The transmitter is in one of those Dunlop wireless pouches connected to my strap.

Thanks guys and gals, sorry for the long post.
-Matt

 

[Russ]

Sounds to me like your gain levels were too high for your volume level resulting in feedback...

Your 2 8ohm cabs should be plugged into 2 4 ohm jacks correct.

Sounds like your wireless antenna has a short too.

 

[triple rectumfrier]

Sounds to me like your gain levels were too high for your volume level resulting in feedback...

Your 2 8ohm cabs should be plugged into 2 4 ohm jacks correct.

Sounds like your wireless antenna has a short too.

My gain level was at 5 on the triple and on the OD808...the gain at about 9 oclock and the balance at 5 oclock (all the way up)

Great so I had the cabinets plugged in correctly (whew :roll I was worried about that.

my wireless antenna has a short? Any idea on how to check that or should I look into buying a new transmitter? Maybe some soldering work is necessary?

Thanks Russ, you have always been a huge help in my worries!!

 

[Russ]

I would just check out a new transmitter if you like your current wireless system. Then take the time to experiment with your old one so that just in case you cannot fix it and you actually further damage it at least you have a new one. Also if you manage to fix it you have a backup or if your unit is set up for multiple channels you can use both. It could also just be your battery. Sometimes those little things start acting weird with a bad battery just before it quits. If you get a new transmitter you could probably find one pretty cheap because electronics like wireless don't hold their value too well. Actually most electronics don't hold their value too well. The electronics market just moves too quickly in the form of technical advances.

 

[triple rectumfrier]

I would just check out a new transmitter if you like your current wireless system. Then take the time to experiment with your old one so that just in case you cannot fix it and you actually further damage it at least you have a new one. Also if you manage to fix it you have a backup or if your unit is set up for multiple channels you can use both. It could also just be your battery. Sometimes those little things start acting weird with a bad battery just before it quits. If you get a new transmitter you could probably find one pretty cheap because electronics like wireless don't hold their value too well. Actually most electronics don't hold their value too well. The electronics market just moves too quickly in the form of technical advances.

You are right about that...the electronics market is flying in every direction. I will buy a new transmitter. I dont know how much you know about shure wirelesses..but I was thinking of getting the UR1 bodypack:
http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WirelessMicrophones/us_pro_UR1_content which is better than the ULX1: http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WirelessMicrophones/us_pro_ULX1_content

But I dont know if that will be compatible with my ULXP4 Receiver: http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WirelessMicrophones/us_pro_ULXP4_content

Any thought?

 

[Russ]

I haven't used a wireless in years. Sorry I can't help you there with the Shure. Let me know how things turn out though. I have been checking out the wireless mics and the combo kits for mic and guitar wireless.

 

[Guitarzan]

I would just check out a new transmitter if you like your current wireless system. Then take the time to experiment with your old one so that just in case you cannot fix it and you actually further damage it at least you have a new one. Also if you manage to fix it you have a backup or if your unit is set up for multiple channels you can use both. It could also just be your battery. Sometimes those little things start acting weird with a bad battery just before it quits. If you get a new transmitter you could probably find one pretty cheap because electronics like wireless don't hold their value too well. Actually most electronics don't hold their value too well. The electronics market just moves too quickly in the form of technical advances.

You are right about that...the electronics market is flying in every direction. I will buy a new transmitter. I dont know how much you know about shure wirelesses..but I was thinking of getting the UR1 bodypack:
http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WirelessMicrophones/us_pro_UR1_content which is better than the ULX1: http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WirelessMicrophones/us_pro_ULX1_content

But I dont know if that will be compatible with my ULXP4 Receiver: http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WirelessMicrophones/us_pro_ULXP4_content

Any thought?

I have the ULX and it's a very nice system! If the old adage of "You get what you pay for" is relevant, this is where it truly applies! This system will not let you down. The signal transfer is as good as being plugged in with a cable, no joke.

 

[Russ]

When I was using wireless you would get signal loss. I hear the same thing that new units don't have that problem and that they are using frequencies now also that have way less of a chance of getting interference.

 

[Guitarzan]

This is true! I highly recommend the ULX!

 

[triple rectumfrier]

Yea the ULX's are amazing. I have the Professional and it really works well. Cuts down on any feedback as well and it sounds absolutely amazing. One of my best purchases!!