EQ or Volume Question

[gambit]

So I use my TOV in my band and the other guitarist uses a clean tone thats way trebley that cuts through the mix great while I'm using a lot more mid-range. I play mostly lead and when its time for my solos sometimes I cant hear them distinctively enough. I have a MXR microamp but that doesnt do **** unless its in the FX loop, which I dont have it in. I also have a boss 7 band eq to boost my treble always but its still not enough. A boost pedal? A different EQ? I dont know what to do, Im not sure if my guitar just needs to be louder or it needs to be louder and cut through the mix better.


Thanks guys!

 

[94Tremoverb]

I would take a small bet that out front, your solos not only come through just fine, but sound far better than his too. If they really don't, I would go for a volume boost or maybe more midrange, not more treble. Can you hear your own speakers well enough? They can be very directional if you're close to them, and if you're out of the beam your sound will seem much duller and less present than it really is. (Apologies if you know that!)

 

[mikey383]

More mids.

Treble and presence get lost in with the cymbals, and low end gets lost in with the bass guitar. To cut better, boost your mids up.

 

[gambit]

hmmmm.....

I've been boosting my treble and low bass to get more of an Adam Jones type sound, you think I should be boosting the midrange instead?

gonna try it!

 

[gambit]

I've tried both the mid range boost (frown) and the Adam Jones EQ (treble boosted and lowest bass level).. not in love with either as far as the sound goes and its not helping me cut through much better as well. =(

 

[94Tremoverb]

Are you boosting in front of the amp, or in the loop? In front won't make a lot of difference because it will get squashed by the amp's distortion.

Are you really sure it's not coming through out front? It can be very deceptive from on stage. The other guy might appear to be cutting through, but out front his sound may be horribly piercing and bright, especially if he's also out of the direct line of his own speakers so he can't hear it. I've seen the 'parting of the red sea' effect in the crowd too many times when players solo! And it sometimes used to happen to me - when I used Fenders, and 1x12 Boogies and such like. But after I got my Tremoverb, never - and I've got so many compliments on my tone using it that I *know* it sounds great out there... but sometimes it doesn't quite seem to cut on stage as much as I would expect. It's a very powerful tone and seems to project really well, and fill the room, without being as actually 'loud' as you'd think it would have to be to do that.

If in doubt, turn it up! When you have a really great tone it doesn't mess up the mix anywhere near as much as something that doesn't sit right even when it *is* the right volume...

 

[brungio]

I vote you turn up also. Your should be able to be heard with that setup. Do you use your Lead channel as a boost?

 

[gambit]

I'm thinking on the TOV you have the option of duplicating either two orange or red channels. Perhaps I'll use the same settings and boost the volume on the second channel so when I change channels my tone wont change but it will be louder... what do we think?

 

[94Tremoverb]

That will work. The channel cloning is one of the best features of the 2-channel Rectifiers and Tremoverbs. There's this slight weirdness where the Orange channel presence control works on the Red channel as well when the Red is cloned to vintage, but actually it's useful when you get used to it because it means you can add more presence on the Red channel, even when everything else is the same. Use your Orange presence for the 'master' setting and turn the Red up further if you want to cut through better.

 

[stephen sawall]

You and the other guitar player need to work together and maybe both EQ a little different to make the band sound best. Make sure you enter a conversation like this with a open mind. Some players egos are pretty fragile and tone can be a personal subject for some. So choose your words.

 

[Elpelotero]

The Adam Jones sound is actually lots of mids! Believe it or not...I have pictures of his Diezel rig with his settings and his mid knob is almost cranked.

 

[stephen sawall]

Very few people use as much midrange as Adam. ..... as in a ton.

 

[ilikegolfguy]

turn up a bit and more mids.