cleans on a DR

[dbsens03]

I'm sure it's been talked about, but I want to hear current opinions on the cleans a dual rec can produce. demo vid's and audio clips would be fantastic too. Thanks dudes!

 

[ibanez4life SZ!]

I like Rectifier cleans. They're no fender, but they're cool IMO...especially if you don't mind a gritty clean....it can stay clean if you want it to, but sounds better when you allow some dirt in there.

The Roadster has SICK cleans.

Eric

 

[Silverwulf]

2 channel, 3 channel, Roaster, etc?

 

[TREC]

Have you tried out any of the examples in the manual? some of them sound pretty good.
I would love to hear a RK and Mark 5 in stereo!

 

[dbsens03]

I'm only inquiring about cleans on a 3 channel dual rec. not a roadster. I already love the cleans on the roadsters.

 

[A_Ryder]

I'm sure it's been talked about, but I want to hear current opinions on the cleans a dual rec can produce. demo vid's and audio clips would be fantastic too. Thanks dudes!

nded awesome!

I have a 2ch DR (Rev-G I believe) with a Recto 4x12 cab, its closed back does not help cleans much but for an experiment I removed the cabinet's back, whatta ya know the cleans were fantastic! No wonder people like the cleans on some of the other Recto model's, I'll bet they were combo's or other cabinets with a half-open/closed back.

Anyway my fav. clean amp is a Fender Deluxe reverb, the DR's isn't as good as that but it reminds me very strongly of it so I'm happy with the DR clean.

Before Boogie/Recto I had Marshall gear so the Recto clean is infinitely better for me.

Head-room?

I've heard some guys say the clean isn't as loud as the vintage and especially the modern channel, well I'd say the DR clean is louder than most specialist clean amps it's just that the hi-gain channels are super loud (but they can be turned down). I don't have a problem matching the clean/vintage/modern volumes.

Oh and it depends on your guitar / pickups, a Tele or Strat would twang away nicely but I only have shredder axes, the Ibanez John Petrucci model gets very nice cleans in the out of phase single-coil position. Humbuckers are begging for overdrive and rolling the guitar vol to 8 or 9 hasn't kill anyone.

I also have a Triaxis and IIC+ as well and they have great cleans yet I'd say the DR clean is "just as good" for me at least.

Anyway good luck. Sorry I don't have time for a vid or clip...

 

[dbsens03]

right on, thanks dude!

 

[YellowJacket]

I'm sure it's been talked about, but I want to hear current opinions on the cleans a dual rec can produce. demo vid's and audio clips would be fantastic too. Thanks dudes!

nded awesome!

I have a 2ch DR (Rev-G I believe) with a Recto 4x12 cab, its closed back does not help cleans much but for an experiment I removed the cabinet's back, whatta ya know the cleans were fantastic! No wonder people like the cleans on some of the other Recto model's, I'll bet they were combo's or other cabinets with a half-open/closed back.

Agreed

My thiele has a front vent which helps the cleans out immensely. They are super warm with a good spread and when you hit the gas, the tone is still direct and super tight. Closebacked 4 x 12s are really designed for a punishing crunch above all else. Still, the cleans and low gain settings on the Electra Dyne absolutely destroy the dual, with no mercy. The overdriven plexi-ish higher gain tones are also brilliant, but when you get past that into more modern tones, the dual is in far more comfortable territory.

Vids (from mesa. This guy is a great demonstrator)
Dual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It_k4uDnetU

Electra Dyne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLpk6H5YX3A

Both demos are with the same player and with a close backed cab. I'd say they are very honest and representative, giving one a very good idea of what each amp does best. My one caveat is that BOTH amps sound WAY better in person.

DBSENS, if you are looking for an amp with epic cleans, great clip, and a good vintage rock / punk rock tone the Electra Dyne delivers that in spades. If you are doing metal, definitely go with a recto. The cleans do their job.

 

[dbsens03]

[/quote]DBSENS, if you are looking for an amp with epic cleans, great clip, and a good vintage rock / punk rock tone the Electra Dyne delivers that in spades. If you are doing metal, definitely go with a recto. The cleans do their job.[/quote]

I am looking for an amp with epic cleans. I have been sold on getting either a roadster or mark v for quite some time. I just had someone offer to sell me their DR and so I was curious how their cleans hold up. IMO the roadster and mark v both have awesome clean tones. The roadster is a badass metal amp. The mark v does metal well but again,lMP, is an epic rock amp. the DR is a great amp and gives some great tones but i like the additional features on the roadster. And i straight up just love the mark v. this is why I would steer clear of the ED. Not that it isn't any good. Just not what I want at this time. Thanks again dudes!

 

[mikey383]

Never had a problem with my Rev G's cleans. They're not a Fender, but they do the job quite well.

 

[YellowJacket]

I am looking for an amp with epic cleans. I have been sold on getting either a roadster or mark v for quite some time. I just had someone offer to sell me their DR and so I was curious how their cleans hold up. IMO the roadster and mark v both have awesome clean tones. The roadster is a badass metal amp. The mark v does metal well but again,lMP, is an epic rock amp. the DR is a great amp and gives some great tones but i like the additional features on the roadster. And i straight up just love the mark v. this is why I would steer clear of the ED. Not that it isn't any good. Just not what I want at this time. Thanks again dudes!

Roadster does not have the same clean channels as a Dual Rec, they are much better. I understand it has similar cleans to a Lonestar, which is another amp I would recommend for great cleans. The Mark V is-well-the Mark V and if you like that, you should get it. My advice for you is to steer clear of the Dual Rec and pickup a Roadster. Sounds like that is the amp you want!
If you try an Electra Dyne and hate it, that's fine. Everyone likes different gear. If you haven't, I'd still suggest trying one because *I* totally loved it but who knows, you might not. In my opinion, the clean tones on that amp totally destroy.

 

[dbsens03]

how dirty can the ED get?

 

[YellowJacket]

how dirty can the ED get?

Did you check that video I posted? I think it does a pretty good job of representing what the amp can do. (Toward the end of the video, one of the Mesa Techs is playing a hard rock riff which gives you an idea of the high gain sound it does) It does what is labeled as vintage high gain which is fairly saturated but it isn't as defined and articulate as a Dual. Rather, it is very smooth and liquidy, similar to a hotrodded plexi. It is a great and very even rock / punk rock tone but not really metal yet. Still, I wonder what the options are as far as adding a boost or even using a guitar with very hot pickups.

My suggestion is to try it but without expectations. See how you respond. Just like anything, you may love it or you may hate it. Just because I love it doesn't mean you will.

 

[dbsens03]

I'm sure it's been talked about, but I want to hear current opinions on the cleans a dual rec can produce. demo vid's and audio clips would be fantastic too. Thanks dudes!

nded awesome!

I have a 2ch DR (Rev-G I believe) with a Recto 4x12 cab, its closed back does not help cleans much but for an experiment I removed the cabinet's back, whatta ya know the cleans were fantastic! No wonder people like the cleans on some of the other Recto model's, I'll bet they were combo's or other cabinets with a half-open/closed back.

Agreed

My thiele has a front vent which helps the cleans out immensely. They are super warm with a good spread and when you hit the gas, the tone is still direct and super tight. Closebacked 4 x 12s are really designed for a punishing crunch above all else. Still, the cleans and low gain settings on the Electra Dyne absolutely destroy the dual, with no mercy. The overdriven plexi-ish higher gain tones are also brilliant, but when you get past that into more modern tones, the dual is in far more comfortable territory.

Vids (from mesa. This guy is a great demonstrator)
Dual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It_k4uDnetU

Electra Dyne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLpk6H5YX3A

Both demos are with the same player and with a close backed cab. I'd say they are very honest and representative, giving one a very good idea of what each amp does best. My one caveat is that BOTH amps sound WAY better in person.

DBSENS, if you are looking for an amp with epic cleans, great clip, and a good vintage rock / punk rock tone the Electra Dyne delivers that in spades. If you are doing metal, definitely go with a recto. The cleans do their job.

I do like this guy's demo's btw. I wish they'd have him demo all of their products not just the above mentioned and the express

 

[YellowJacket]

I think that will give you a good idea of whether the Electra Dyne has enough gain or not. You can tell in the video that the low gain tones on the Dual are good, but nowhere near the Electra Dyne. The high gain tones on the Dual are also way more saturated, articulate, and just downright beefy.

 

[dbsens03]

don't ya just wish you had enough $ to own everything mesa makes lol

 

[A_Ryder]

don't ya just wish you had enough $ to own everything mesa makes lol

Money? I wonder if Petrucci pays for all his amps, he seems to have every single model on the planet (lucky bazterd)

 

[dbsens03]

ya no kidding. So in my quest for the most righteous amp I am finding out more about Diezel's. The Herbert is just . . . .WOW!

 

[cheameup]

for what its worth I really like the DR cleans . I find there isnt a whole bunch of different clean sounds in it but I like whats there and it suits my playing