chosing a boogie - best all-rounder?

[oyster]

For example, the Roadster cops a Lone Star clean and Recto distortion, but its not the same as either of those two amps.

Incorrect statement.

The Roadster is in fact a Dual Rectifier, as is the Road King.

 

[Mr_You]

For example, the Roadster cops a Lone Star clean and Recto distortion, but its not the same as either of those two amps.

Incorrect statement.

The Roadster is in fact a Dual Rectifier, as is the Road King.

But my understanding is the gain range of the Dual Rectifier channels 2/3 is much greater than the Roadster/RoadKing channels 3/3 gain range. What I meant by "its not the same as either of those two amps" is that you can't get all the tones from a Dual Rectifier because of the gain level difference. There is no "nu metal" tone in my Roadster, it stays in the "hard rock" gain area if you know what I mean. Correct me if I'm wrong. Besides that yeah its pure Dual Rectifier tone. Thanks.

 

[Laskyman]

But my understanding is the gain range of the Dual Rectifier channels 2/3 is much greater than the Roadster/RoadKing channels 3/3 gain range

The latest Mesa catalog indicates that running "vintage through all 4 6L6's to cop the dual rectifier solo head exactly".
I was told that the Roadster/Roadking II ARE Dual Rectos with a Lonestar hiding inside channels 1 & 2. I would say having spent some serious time with all of the above mentioned amps, that these are closer to the Duals then they are to the Lonestar.
I personally cant percieve ANY difference in my Roadster vs. the Dual Rectifier aside both clean channels are vastly superior in the Roadster (at least the contemporary 3 channel duals).

Laskyman

 

[Elpelotero]

to the original poster, in case you didn't notice, one of two things has happened:

1) you were too vague with your description, and people are throwing many amps your way, or

2) mesa boogies simply kick maximum a$$ and nearly any of them will get you the job done!

if you can list a few more specifics or bands you like, we can get closer.

 

[Matterra]

But my understanding is the gain range of the Dual Rectifier channels 2/3 is much greater than the Roadster/RoadKing channels 3/3 gain range

The latest Mesa catalog indicates that running "vintage through all 4 6L6's to cop the dual rectifier solo head exactly".
I was told that the Roadster/Roadking II ARE Dual Rectos with a Lonestar hiding inside channels 1 & 2. I would say having spent some serious time with all of the above mentioned amps, that these are closer to the Duals then they are to the Lonestar.
I personally cant percieve ANY difference in my Roadster vs. the Dual Rectifier aside both clean channels are vastly superior in the Roadster (at least the contemporary 3 channel duals).

Laskyman

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I've never played a Road King, but, the roadster has a Lonestar hiding in 1 and 2?
thats odd.. When I played one at the Mesa/Boogie Store in Hollywood, its cleans were pitiful, and I even had an employee dial in tones while I was playing. Later, when I played a Lonestar at San Bernadino GC, it had pretty sweet cleans..

 

[Laskyman]

Both the Roadking II and the Roadster have clean channels ripped from the Lonestar (both clean and fat modes of each channel, as well as the Reverb).
If you heard "pitiful" cleans out of the Roadster, 1 of 2 things were going on-
1) Amp had a problem
or
2) Operator error

The Roadster clean channels are Golden. I have trouble believing the there wasn't a problem with *that* particular amp- I don't think I have heard a bad sound out of either clean channel.
Check out a different Roadster, or spend more time with the amp. Believe me- the cleans should definately NOT sound "pitiful".

Laskyman

 

[123thefirst]

I've never played a Road King, but, the roadster has a Lonestar hiding in 1 and 2?
thats odd.. When I played one at the Mesa/Boogie Store in Hollywood, its cleans were pitiful, and I even had an employee dial in tones while I was playing. Later, when I played a Lonestar at San Bernadino GC, it had pretty sweet cleans..

The Lonestar circuit is only within the Clean and Fat modes of channels 1 and 2 of the Road King/Roadster.
But I think the real issue is the cabinet. If your ear is used to the Fender sound, then I venture to say
that no closed cabinet is quite going to do for you in clean or low gain mode. The Roadster combo has a
closed (or ported) cabinet with V30's. The Lone Star in all configurations has an open cabinet with C90's.

 

[srf399]

An old marshall cranked to 10 with a big muff fuzztone pedal or the speaker slashed with a box cutter... whichever you prefer. LMAO

 

[srf399]

Always wondered what kinda drugs the inventor of the bug muff was on when he named it! LMAO Wonder what it sounds like when you shave some of the fuzz off! More of a bare tone I would imagine! LMAO