Calling All Non-Metalheads!

[ifailedshapes]

I am super interested in the new multi-watt Dual Recs, but I don't play metal. In truth, I hate metal. How many people on here use a Dual for classic-to-modern rock and/or modern country?

 

[Steve@Russo]

not the same but I use a single for fugazi/quicksand style rock

 

[fluff191]

............there are other kinds of music other than metal? :shock:

 

[YellowJacket]

I am super interested in the new multi-watt Dual Recs, but I don't play metal. In truth, I hate metal. How many people on here use a Dual for classic-to-modern rock and/or modern country?

What do you hate about metal? Truthfully, much of tone is in the fingers. How you play the guitar has a huge impact on the sound you hear from guitar to amp. Aside from that, speaker model, speaker enclosure, guitar, and guitar electronics all shape tone substantially as well. Even tubes can affect tone, but not as drastically.

Lastly, amp settings also affect tone. On the new multi-watt duals, the raw mode does a more crunchy and far less saturated sort of overdrive that might be what you are looking for. Just keep in mind that if you are playing a Jackson loaded with Dimebag Daryl signature Seymour Duncan pickups, you will get a pretty metal sound. If you run that through a Mills Acoustics 4 x 12 loaded with EV Blacklabel speakers, you will get a really metal sound.

Conversely, look up some other options, such as a Les Paul equipped with boutique PAF replicas or maybe a good ol' American Fender strat with three single coil PUPs. If you throw that through a G12H 30 or Greenback loaded 4 x 12, you'll be comping a vintage vibe for sure!

 

[94Tremoverb]

I use a Tremoverb for alt/pop/country/light rock/blues/jazz sort of stuff. (I hate trying to categorize my music but that's somewhere in the right ballpark...) I do sometimes use the Modern High-Gain setting too - just not very often and never live because I use Blues (which is probably closest to Raw on the new amps) as my Red channel crunch and low-gain lead mode and use a pedal for higher gain solos. I don't play metal, nu-metal, hard rock, grunge or whatever you normally associate a Dual Rectifier with, except just for fun at home (and not well!). In truth I don't really like much of that sort of music either except for very early metal that's not much more than hard blues-rock, and grunge.

And yes, the Tremoverb is the best amp I've found for what I want to do. It's just got a great inherent tone, and is very versatile. And I mostly use a PRS and a Rickenbacker with it...

 

[jsabo]

the fact that i no longer do much metal is exactly why i got rid of my rectoverb.
hated that thing for anything other than teh br00tz

 

[plapnab]

I use a dual rectifier and I don't play a lot of metal. Mostly hard rock and classic rock. I've seen a lot of country players use them. The guitar player from Dave Mathews Band uses them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTmzc6jO_WM

 

[estring]

the fact that i no longer do much metal is exactly why i got rid of my rectoverb.
hated that thing for anything other than teh br00tz

I have a ROV and do everything BUT metal and its shines.... :lol:

 

[screamingdaisy]

I use my Recto for rock. One of the reasons I'd like a Roadster is so I can have the second clean channel for the 'pushed' sound of a gained up clean channel to bridge the gap between clean and high gain.

 

[ryjan]

Sure a recto can do other stuff than metal but there are a lot of amps that do the rock thing a lot better. I'd check out a Dyne before you drop any cash.

 

[b0nkersx]

Sure a recto can do other stuff than metal but there are a lot of amps that do the rock thing a lot better.

Pretty much this, especially when it comes to classic rock.

I know there are people who will disagree with me, but while a Rectifier is certainly a versatile amp (especially the Roadster and Road King), buying it to play a lot of classic rock is like buying a monster truck so you can go to the grocery store.

With that said, I own a Road King II, and it certainly does things other than metal very well. Vintage and brit modes can span extremely wide ranges of music. If I didn't play metal, however, I would have gotten a Stiletto, Electra Dyne, or Mark V. Metal is this amps forté, bar none.

 

[xxFIXXEDxx]

I have a 2010 Dual Rec, and it is a great amp. Beautiful clean channel. My favorite voicings on the amp are the vintage voicings in channels 2 and 3. I like them more than the modern voicings. The great thing about these amps is that they can do so, so much. I play punk, hard rock, and when I practice it's always blues. It is an extremely versatile amp. The vintage voicings give gain for days, and have such sweetness to them, perfect midrange. It is also my first venture into a tube rectified amp, and I love it. I had a Soldano and traded it in for the Dual and I haven't had seller's remorse once. I'm having the local guitar shop put an adjustable bias trim pot in. The Soldano had one and I am used to biasing my tubes to taste, the fixed bias thing throws me. Other than that and changing tubes to my favorites, there's nothing else I'd change about it.

 

[konstantine RK]

I have a Roadking one... I am playing in a corporate party coverband and it just gives me all the options I need for lame songs from Bryan Adams, Jimmy Buffett, Sugar Ray but gives me the proper nice easy tones through single coils for these types of artists..

But when I get to play some Cars (Elliot Easton leads!!!) I get to play channel 4. I have to get a Roadking II for sure!

 

[volatileNoise]

I have only stuck by Mesa because it has a versatile sound, and like YellowJacket mentioned, the tone/sound is manipulated easily with this amp by playing style.

If I was playing metal I would go to a different manufacturer, better off the shelf amps out there for metal tone.

 

[ryjan]

If I was playing metal I would go to a different manufacturer, better off the shelf amps out there for metal tone.

The Mark's and Rectos don't get metal enough for you? Which amp do you prefer. I have tried Engl and been through the whole 5150/6505 phase and I keep comming back. Other amps may be more brutal and have more saturation but to me at least it seems like they all are missing something. Soul, mojo, midrange :wink: ?

 

[espboogie123]

My old Peavey JSX brutalized my roadster in the classic rock genre. Harmonics would fly off that crunch channel. I miss that amp.

 

[rockanomicon]

Although I sing in a metal band. I like to play alot of other stuff. Not so much country, but classic rock, post rock, space rock.....etc etc. Ive found that I can can get a very wide variety of tones with my Roadster, and a few pedals. For Metal, I actually think my guitar players 6505 has better metal tone than mine. I dont know how much the new Rectos are retailing for, but if you want some versatility, check out the Roadster.

 

[ifailedshapes]

Good stuff guys. Keep it comin'!

 

[plapnab]

More? Ok, here's Jason Aldean and Bryan Adams on Crossroads. Jump to 0:49 if you don't want to watch the whole clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfD9mNwGrww&feature=related

 

[erectifier]

Good stuff guys. Keep it comin'!

it does all styles of rock fine but im worried about the country side. you really need a clean channel with heaps of headroom to get the true country, fingerpickin sparkle sounds and the rectos dont do this. i cant vouch for the reborn rectifiers but i assume they are still lacking in this department. if you'll be playing country and classic rock there are definitely better amps for you than a rectifier